2022 Oracle | Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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So, essentially, $60 million a year from Oracle and $50 million a year from Bybit. That makes it $110 million a year from just 2 deals! Potentially, Red Bull doesn't have to expend anything in the racing team. This should provide great deal of investment for the engine division.
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This is absolutely huge money for the team!

Great news indeed to have them committed long term to F1 and indeed preparing 2025

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Ryar wrote:
16 Feb 2022, 14:37
So, essentially, $60 million a year from Oracle and $50 million a year from Bybit. That makes it $110 million a year from just 2 deals! Potentially, Red Bull doesn't have to expend anything in the racing team. This should provide great deal of investment for the engine division.
Are Redbull still investing in an PU department as I thought Honda were continuing to supply them until 2025 then there was speculation of Porsche supplying them after that?

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At least they got money to buy a Ferrari or a Mercedes AMG now... :wink:

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I don't think the article is correct.
Max was in Monaco today according to fans, yesterday afternoon he/his plane :) was in Londen, early in the evening back in Cannes.
The whole day there was a Mercedes F1 Team Truck at the circuit. I don't think RBR will show them their car.
Also it was announced that there will be a shakedown tomorrow with the RB18.

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Jambier wrote:
16 Feb 2022, 16:33
This is absolutely huge money for the team!

Great news indeed to have them committed long term to F1 and indeed preparing 2025
I guess, I'm not sure how I feel about a slightly dodgy sponsor taking such a prominent place on the car, but it is certainly good for the RBR budget. It's interesting to see the contrast to AlphaTauri and Williams who have little in the way of external sponsorship.

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morefirejules08 wrote:
16 Feb 2022, 16:46
Ryar wrote:
16 Feb 2022, 14:37
So, essentially, $60 million a year from Oracle and $50 million a year from Bybit. That makes it $110 million a year from just 2 deals! Potentially, Red Bull doesn't have to expend anything in the racing team. This should provide great deal of investment for the engine division.
Are Redbull still investing in an PU department as I thought Honda were continuing to supply them until 2025 then there was speculation of Porsche supplying them after that?
Sure. Even when Redbull Powertrain has developed the engine by 2025, the annual costs will be high for building, testing and further development. Any investor, who wants to take over those costs, will be welcome.

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Wouter wrote:
16 Feb 2022, 21:13
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I don't think the article is correct.
Max was in Monaco today according to fans, yesterday afternoon he/his plane :) was in Londen, early in the evening back in Cannes.
The whole day there was a Mercedes F1 Team Truck at the circuit. I don't think RBR will show them their car.
Also it was announced that there will be a shakedown tomorrow with the RB18.

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Where was it announced?

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Cassius wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 00:31
Wouter wrote:
16 Feb 2022, 21:13
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I don't think the article is correct.
Max was in Monaco today according to fans, yesterday afternoon he/his plane :) was in Londen, early in the evening back in Cannes.
The whole day there was a Mercedes F1 Team Truck at the circuit. I don't think RBR will show them their car.
Also it was announced that there will be a shakedown tomorrow with the RB18.

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Where was it announced?
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Last week during the presentation someone from RBR said there will be a shakedown at the end of next week, probably Thursday.
Yesterday Perez arrived in Milton Keynes and now Max is on his way.

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It is indeed very handy when a driver has his own plane, which you can follow.

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nice portraits :)
the Red Bull Ring-statue like logo of the Bull on the new clothing is good

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Seeing a few sources talking about a shakedown by RB this afternoon with a camo car. Nothing concrete but this guy is reporting it and he's usually not too far off on RB stuff?



https://www.telegraaf.nl/sport/17338918 ... ime-sessie

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AeroDynamic wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 21:06
Mercedes was strong in the same area you feel? do you feel Mercedes got some crucial outcomes through lobbying? :) I thought this was the RBR thread. But I'll wait. :lol:
Thin guage tyres, change of pit stop rules, new rules for flex tests? :lol:
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AeroDynamic wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 21:16
Curbstone wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 21:08
AeroDynamic wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 20:12


for me, this means one of the teams strengths in lobbying the race director for decision outcomes in their favour, is about to evaporate. Jonathan Wheatley was absolutely an Asset in this area, as is Christian Horner.

but with this change, seemingly, one of RBR's strengths has been lost in the blink of an eye.

Championships should be won on track anyway, but still, this strength of the team has proven to be a real asset and I question how much this will impact their weekends without being able to persuade and manipulate the RD.

This is going to put more pressure on Max to defend his title on track.
What are you on about...? Is this just because of the Abu Dhabi call? You're seeing ghosts here mate.
What part don't you understand? RBR are very competent at persuasive communication over the radio to the RD when it was allowed. The FIA has Annulée this from being possible now. Out of all the teams, I think RBR will feel this change the most.
Ryar wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 21:16
AeroDynamic wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 21:06
Mercedes was strong in the same area you feel? do you feel Mercedes got some crucial outcomes through lobbying? :) I thought this was the RBR thread. But I'll wait. :lol:
Thin guage tyres, change of pit stop rules, new rules for flex tests? :lol:
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17 Feb 2022, 21:08
Yes Mercedes is good at lobbying. Proven by the the pitstop rules last year, Flexi rear wing and the allowable flexi front wing. What about the mid season change in tire specs a few years back, which happend to suit Mercedes better.

What has the technical lobbying got to do with the persuasive communication to a race director with what happens in the race? Race director does not make technical rule changes, and all teams are still able to lobby and argue /demand from the FIA behind the scenes about the technical elements of the series.
The person involved was the same guy?
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