FIA Thread

[AeroDynamic]

Masi leaving was certain, his position was untenable after an inconsistent season and the shadow of doubt cast by media, teams and fans from all sides. Admitting fault and dismissing him would just be dumb by FIA.

Not just the 2021 season, he has screwed up multiple times a season since he started!

Since he started 'let them race' in 2019 and never knew how to control it or create boundaries around what that means and what the limits are..until.. it was too late and the drivers feedback after Brazil was embarrassing.

[ENGINE TUNER]

Masi leaving was certain, his position was untenable after an inconsistent season and the shadow of doubt cast by media, teams and fans from all sides. Admitting fault and dismissing him would just be dumb by FIA.

Not just the 2021 season, he has screwed up multiple times a season since he started!

Since he started 'let them race' in 2019 and never knew how to control it or create boundaries around what that means and what the limits are..until.. it was too late and the drivers feedback after Brazil was embarrassing.

As terrible as the let them race nonsense was, his refusal to uphold the track limits, white lines regulations, and placing launch ramps and huge curbs just outside those lines was far worse. He was clearly not fit for the position.

[PlatinumZealot]

https://youtu.be/qP9Go3e7Q3E

Very informative and insightful video. If you jump to the 2020 season it shows how screwy, clumsy and dangerous manageing the SC becomes! It's shocking. In Spa 2020 they had nine marshals on track, two cranes and the medical car but no SC queue! Crazy! Masi definitely tried too hard to rush things at times and safety was put aside too much.

[PlatinumZealot]

https://youtu.be/qP9Go3e7Q3E

OK for anybody watching, you can watch parts on 2012, singapore 2015, 2020 and 2021 seasons. 2020 and 2021 are loaded with Masi Cock-ups. The most egregious is Abu Dhabi 2021 of course, where we see safety car being brought in BEFORE the track clear was given among other major cock-ups. Singapore 2015 is interesting only because some lapped cars were allowed to overtake, but it was a radio issue that lead to that.

This video is definitely the most comprehensive I have seen on safety cars, and pretty much removes any doubt about Masi's dismissal.

[AeroDynamic]

https://youtu.be/qP9Go3e7Q3E

OK for anybody watching, you can watch parts on 2012, singapore 2015, 2020 and 2021 seasons. 2020 and 2021 are loaded with Masi Cock-ups. The most egregious is Abu Dhabi 2021 of course, where we see safety car being brought in BEFORE the track clear was given among other major cock-ups. Singapore 2015 is interesting only because some lapped cars were allowed to overtake, but it was a radio issue that lead to that.

Thanks for the breakdown PZ!

[AeroDynamic]

was this posted before? Our new Permenant Senior Advisor of the Stewards and new RD's spoke on Abu Dhabi a little here.

[the EDGE]

An expedited safety car restart process and the elimination of the long-established starting tyre rule are among the changes revealed in newly-published versions of Formula 1’s sporting regulations.

https://the-race.com/formula-1/f1-rules ... rule-axed/

[KeiKo403]

https://youtu.be/qP9Go3e7Q3E

OK for anybody watching, you can watch parts on 2012, singapore 2015, 2020 and 2021 seasons. 2020 and 2021 are loaded with Masi Cock-ups. The most egregious is Abu Dhabi 2021 of course, where we see safety car being brought in BEFORE the track clear was given among other major cock-ups. Singapore 2015 is interesting only because some lapped cars were allowed to overtake, but it was a radio issue that lead to that.

This video is definitely the most comprehensive I have seen on safety cars, and pretty much removes any doubt about Masi's dismissal.

Singapore 2015 was a weird one, there wasn't a crash for the SC either so very unprecedented.
It was Rossi who had the radio issues and also the instruction to pass. Stevens who was a few cars further back wasn't given the instruction to pass. It was due to Rossi's radio issues that no cars unlapped.

I think the reason why only Rossi got the instruction to unlap was because of pitstops. I can't be sure but was Rossi infront of the leaders when the SC came out and only shuffled into the pack during the inevitable SC pitstops?

I believe that incident, no cars [were instructed to] unlap per se, Charlie just wanted to put the cars back in the order they were on track when the SC came out. There's something in the rags I believe that a car must pass the 2nd safety car line 1 lap down 2 times in order to be classed as a lap down, or the leader must do that after passing a back marker, something along those lines anyway. Maybe that didn't happen with Rossi due to pit stops hence only him being instructed to pass the leaders and Stevens remaining lapped.

As an aside though, I watched the full video and very early on in the video he says something about why cars are allowed to catch the back of the pack (I know rules around this have changed in recent years). Basically due to the safety car coming out if there was a 10s gap between 1st and 2nd the behind the safety car that gap is reduced to nothing then why shouldn't 18th be on the gearbox of 17th and 17th on the back of 16th etc etc. It is the only fair and sporting thing to do.

AD'21 is still a massive, and only(?) anomaly in terms of following safety car procedure.

[Oleo]

https://youtu.be/qP9Go3e7Q3E

OK for anybody watching, you can watch parts on 2012, singapore 2015, 2020 and 2021 seasons. 2020 and 2021 are loaded with Masi Cock-ups. The most egregious is Abu Dhabi 2021 of course, where we see safety car being brought in BEFORE the track clear was given among other major cock-ups. Singapore 2015 is interesting only because some lapped cars were allowed to overtake, but it was a radio issue that lead to that.

This video is definitely the most comprehensive I have seen on safety cars, and pretty much removes any doubt about Masi's dismissal.

As an aside though, I watched the full video and very early on in the video he says something about why cars are allowed to catch the back of the pack (I know rules around this have changed in recent years). Basically due to the safety car coming out if there was a 10s gap between 1st and 2nd the behind the safety car that gap is reduced to nothing then why shouldn't 18th be on the gearbox of 17th and 17th on the back of 16th etc etc. It is the only fair and sporting thing to do.

AD'21 is still a massive, and only(?) anomaly in terms of following safety car procedure.

If a 10 second gap is reduced to nothing between car A and B, it is only fair and sporting to reduce a 1m30s gap between car C and D as well? Not in my world. The slower cars already gain massively more time to the cars in front of them than 2nd does to first.

The goal of unlapping surely is to move the slower cars away from the relevant battle of faster cars, A) so they dont get a ton of blue flags shortly after restart, creating chaos and B) so they dont get caught by the leaders in a few laps and then interfere anyway. Catching the back of the pack is an unnecessary waste of time and unfair due to lapped cars having a possible advantage due to warmer tyres than their direct competitors.

[AeroDynamic]

Nothing about the safety car is fair.

The leader who has 10 seconds gap to the next car who can stop him from taking victory gets to start right behind because of a safety car? It can never be fair unless they do a staggered release approach in a restart to reinstate the advantage- they should do this to protect the integrity of race as much as possible

[Stu]

I just hope that the new RD team are fair, firm and consistent. No matter who is involved or where they line up on the grid. Rules is rules, track limits is track limits, but rubbin’ ain’t racing’ (not in open-wheelers)!!

[Wouter]

I just hope that the new RD team are fair, firm and consistent. No matter who is involved or where they line up on the grid. Rules is rules, track limits is track limits, but rubbin’ ain’t racing’ (not in open-wheelers)!!

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Yes, I hope so too, but what about the stewards? Last year there were 42 different stewards and they were very inconsistent.
That must also be changed.

[toraabe]

This year with all the new elements, one driver will suffer more than the rest...

[LHamilton]

I wouldn't be suprised if some of Masi's poor decisions were the outcome of the Owners wanting a 'spectacle' and entertainment. So before people rush into celebrations, let's see how next year pans out. If we see similar trends, then we might need to question on how much artificial entertainment the sport needs.

[dans79]

I wouldn't be suprised if some of Masi's poor decisions were the outcome of the Owners wanting a 'spectacle' and entertainment. So before people rush into celebrations, let's see how next year pans out. If we see similar trends, then we might need to question on how much artificial entertainment the sport needs.

his 2020 imola and istanbul screw ups where all about the show/spectacle at the expense of safety.