2022 car comparison thread

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I read this on a German site, but I don't understand it. Can somebody explane it to me? (picture?)

Formel 1 Technik-Check: Wo sind die Mercedes-Seitenkästen?
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Aus der Schräge wächst an der Oberseite ein 2022 seltenes Leitblech. Mercedes nutzt hier die Spiegelbefestigung als Ursprung.
Von den Vorderreifen verwirbelte Luft wird hier aggressiv nach außen, weg vom eigenen Auto geleitet.
Genau das sollen die neuen Regeln eigentlich verhindern.
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Formula 1 technology check: where are the Mercedes sidepods?
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A rare 2022 deflector grows out of the slope at the top. Mercedes uses the mirror attachment as the origin here.
Air swirled by the front tyres is aggressively directed outwards here, away from the car itself.
This is exactly what the new rules are supposed to prevent.

https://www.motorsport-magazin.com/form ... ment-2022/
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Wouter wrote:
19 Feb 2022, 12:20
I read this on a German site, but I don't understand it. Can somebody explane it to me? (picture?)
The author is referring to this:

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Predator wrote:
19 Feb 2022, 12:29
Wouter wrote:
19 Feb 2022, 12:20
I read this on a German site, but I don't understand it. Can somebody explane it to me? (picture?)
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The author is referring to this:

https://images.motorsport-magazin.com/i ... 001003.jpg
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Thank you! Is that allowed this year?
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Wouter wrote:
19 Feb 2022, 12:50
Predator wrote:
19 Feb 2022, 12:29
Wouter wrote:
19 Feb 2022, 12:20
I read this on a German site, but I don't understand it. Can somebody explane it to me? (picture?)
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The author is referring to this:

https://images.motorsport-magazin.com/i ... 001003.jpg
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Thank you! Is that allowed this year?
In order to understand why Mercedes is confident that it is legal you have to see the mirror housing and mirror stay in front view. The deflector can be regarded as part of the mirror stay connecting the mirror housing to the side pod.

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Godius wrote:
19 Feb 2022, 14:25
Wouter wrote:
19 Feb 2022, 12:50
Predator wrote:
19 Feb 2022, 12:29

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The author is referring to this:

https://images.motorsport-magazin.com/i ... 001003.jpg
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Thank you! Is that allowed this year?
In order to understand why Mercedes is confident that it is legal you have to see the mirror housing and mirror stay in front view. The deflector can be regarded as part of the mirror stay connecting the mirror housing to the side pod.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FL4Q10RXIAk ... name=large

I predict McLaren to have one soon as well...

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All the Kyle Engineers videos together. The Merc looks a nice package again. Ferrari may be decent but their (and Williams) FW confuses me - for feeding the tunnels a Merc or Aston solution looks better. There must be benefit for the wheel wakes.

Alfa Romeo


Alpha Tauri


Alpine
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Aston Martin


Ferrari


Haas


McLaren


Mercedes


Red Bull
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Williams
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jjn9128 wrote:
19 Feb 2022, 15:20
All the Kyle Engineers videos together. The Merc looks a nice package again. Ferrari may be decent but their (and Williams) FW confuses me - for feeding the tunnels a Merc or Aston solution looks better. There must be benefit for the wheel wakes.

Alfa Romeo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D7RIgGg52c

Alpha Tauri
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqZhOh3Bebc

Alpine
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Aston Martin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-1P86CGzU

Ferrari
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_pVuaNkx0o

Haas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6mgqQtvFeM

McLaren
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYBzndSFVpw

Mercedes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxJwvIT29EE

Red Bull
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Williams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxFse_-mons
Thanks Josh, really interested to hear what he has to say about the Merc (only one that I have not seen so far).

Can’t wait for good pictures of the RedBull, and for Alpine to release anything at all.

The one great thing so far is that there are discernible differences between cars; lots of interesting solutions and lots to digest and talk about.
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Stu wrote:
19 Feb 2022, 15:32
Thanks Josh, really interested to hear what he has to say about the Merc (only one that I have not seen so far).

Can’t wait for good pictures of the RedBull, and for Alpine to release anything at all.

The one great thing so far is that there are discernible differences between cars; lots of interesting solutions and lots to digest and talk about.
Being a former Merc employee he was never going to be harsh like Bsport was about the Williams :lol:

The Red Bull looks Alpha Tauri-like in the long downwashy sidepods. The have a Merc style unloaded inboard front wing and a pull rod front suspension. There are more differences than I feared would be the case - but it's mostly upperbody and front wing where we see differences. Not hugely more difference than was the case last year.
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Suprised no one is daring to question Merc. They have played it safe and stuck with what they know. They dont have anything on surface that other teams cant copy. Williams have more interesting features including the vortex generating mirror stay which some people claim is genius.
The diverging concepts front to back is amazing. 3 front wing types, 3 sidepod philosophy, differing suspension and we havent even sewn much of the rear.
All of this and supposedly they will be within a second of each other, cant wait.

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I don't know why people think Mercedes are playing safe!? As far as I see they have a really tidy looking package with some neat innovations. Obviously its launch spec and only lap times at the first few races will tell.
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jjn9128 wrote:
19 Feb 2022, 20:07
I don't know why people think Mercedes are playing safe!? As far as I see they have a really tidy looking package with some neat innovations. Obviously its launch spec and only lap times at the first few races will tell.
I think because the side pods somewhat resemble previous that people assume Mercedes are playing it safe.

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Mercedes dominate this sport for how many... 7-8 years? It's not Mercedes who need to do revolution imo.