In an official statement, the judges at the court of appeal in Paris have confirmed that the double deck diffusers are legal. Hence the earlier decision of the stewards at the Australian and Malaysian GP has been confirmed.
Yep. And Toyota are way too used to throwing money.Tom Castellani wrote:Ferrari are way too used to fixing things by throwing money at it.
Even as a DDD-detractor (DDDD?), I wouldn't agree on the point of 40% downforce reductions being the spirit. The OWG themselves said this was merely a mean to facilitate easier overtaking.vall wrote:I think many of the DDD supporters miss the point. The "spirit of the rules" is not something vague as they want to convince us. It is a will defined thing: The goals of the OWG were well defined: reduce the DF by 40%, reduce the turbulence behind the car, etc. And all the changes agreed with the team and FIA were meant to achieve that. What happens now is that 3 teams are exploiting a grey area in the regs to get the same DF levels as before, etc. So, yes, what they did goes again what the rules were meant to achieve. And FIA should have stopped them back in January.
..and an aptly-timed safety car..Giblet wrote:They almost won the first race of the season with no KERS, and no trick diffuser.
Was the leading Brawn ever pushed tho?Giblet wrote:Thank you.
And they currently have no trick diffuser.
Look at fastest lap pace, and it's hard to argue my point.
Pos Name Team Lap Time Gap
1 Rosberg Williams 48 1:27.706 135.288 mph
2 Kubica BMW 36 1:27.988 0.282
3 Button Brawn GP 17 1:28.020 0.314
That's why there are pit stops in races.Fil wrote:..and an aptly-timed safety car..Giblet wrote:They almost won the first race of the season with no KERS, and no trick diffuser.
on raw race pace, BMW currently have no hope.
oh and to keep this on-topic, a great decision for the season and for F1. whoever complains that this goes against the spirit or isn't a cost saving decision is looking at the wrong ideals.
the true spirit of F1 is innovation and creativity. and cost saving doesn't truly work in open competition at F1 level.
actually BBC had a nice graphical representation in the buildup with the pace of the cars with adjusted fuel loads. the Brawn car was quite far ahead of the BMW's. they were also quicker in qualifying with a heavier car.Giblet wrote:Thank you for being wrong and stating it so well.
On raw race pace, BMW was faster than BRAWN.
And they currently have no trick diffuser.
Look at fastest lap pace, and it's hard to argue my point.
Pos Name Team Lap Time Gap
1 Rosberg Williams 48 1:27.706 135.288 mph
2 Kubica BMW 36 1:27.988 0.282
3 Button Brawn GP 17 1:28.020 0.314
Do you have a link to it at all?sticky667 wrote:
actually BBC had a nice graphical representation in the buildup with the pace of the cars with adjusted fuel loads. the Brawn car was quite far ahead of the BMW's. they were also quicker in qualifying with a heavier car.
nice try though
Meh, the RB5 is much quicker than the F109 already and it doesn't even have KERS so watch out when Newey adds his Double deck Diffuser!Giblet wrote:When BMW gets their diffuser, look out.
Red Bull Racing technical director Adrian Newey will not travel to this weekend's Chinese Grand Prix and will instead focus on re-designing the diffuser of the RB5.
"We are working flat-out on a new solution already," said Red Bull's motorsport advisor Helmut Marko. "As the verdict became official, Adrian [Newey] immediately cancelled his flight to Shanghai and will stay in the factory. If everything goes according to plan, we will have the 'new' car ready for Monaco."
Marko says Red Bull was angered by the decision to approve the three double-decker diffusers because it had already submitted a similar design for approval and had it rejected.
"What angers us is the fact that we had approached [Charlie] Whiting for a clarification on a diffuser solution like the one in question and we were told it was illegal, therefore we did not pursue it any further though our design team had similar ideas," said Marko.
"I wonder what impact this will have on cornering speeds. I assume there will be problems soon when cars are going too fast, and the airflow the double diffuser creates for sure will make overtaking more difficult again. Thus it is against the spirit of the rules agreed in the working groups."
