Vodaphone McLaren Mercedes MP4-24

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joseff
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I'm gonna say zgred's photos prove conclusively: no DDD.

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Just noticed something: Last year Mclaren were have troubles with severe tyre graining. This season, it seems that Ferrari are having the problem noticeably than Mclaren. Hmmmmm...

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zgred wrote:Image
That looks like a DDD to me as I can see daylight & bodywork thru the section under the rain light.
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zgred wrote:Image
Well, it's not a bona fide double decker (no holes in the under tray), but if that's not a stab at an interim double decker copy (almost along the lines of Brawn's), I don't know what is...

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zgred wrote:Image
Urm, where did that pic come from? All other pics from testing I've seen do not show that gap.

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Ah, straight from F1's site, here's another angle:

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looks like a very minimal upper deck: maybe they don't get enough air to make a bigger one work (it would stall?)

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Are these pictures from the same car. The website says the first pic is HK and the second pic you posted is LH car.

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It still relates to what kind of bits are being used in that area. Gearbox/transaxle although ended around the back axle, the mounting and design from the transaxle to the rearwing mount/crash structure was made as an extension from there. And that dictates how the whole rear is made structurally. You would need to redo the whole structure for the DDD to package. Looking at the broadcast yesterday, compare all the DDD cars to the "regulars", including the McLaren, their rear height tend to be higher because they are making provision for the packaging of the DDD. The most extreme case being the RBR car and you can see that just by the driveshaft angle that swepts up quite a bit more than anyone else. Its definitely a design decision based on what was thought to be "allowed" in terms of rear diffuser height. The fact that these teams thought "wrong" of the rule means as they said would require pretty severe redesign of a pretty tight packaging area...

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Well according to Sky News (just watching it now actually lol) the new aero-package on the MP4-24 features a new front wing (as we now know) and what they describe as an "Interim Diffuser".

I guess this is a sort of DDD, like a Semi-DDD maybe. They'll bring out the full bananas version a lil later...I'd bet at the start of the European races.
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WTH are Mclaren going for here? Looks like someone tried to putty up the diffuser!

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The extra section looks like it get gets air from above the diffuser not below the car.. It is not very similar to the other DDD teams.
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Flaps on the new front wing are similar to those on the Red Bull and Toyota cars.

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joseff
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I'm watching Chinese FP3 now, and HK isn't running the new front wing.

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