2022 Winter Testing Part 2: Bahrain International Circuit 10-12th March

[AeroDynamic]

[etusch]

But I must say, Mercedes car also(like most cars) looks like a handfull no matter who´s driving. LH and GR are having a hard time keeping it clean over a whole lap.

Dont forget 12 months ago the Mercedes looked way worse that it does currently. And it went out to win 3 of the first 4 races. The car almost looked undrivable in testing last year.

This is not like if 1+1= 2 then 2+2=4 situation. They can solve like you said but there is possibility of that they can't. Maybe 2021 issue was bigger but easy to solve, 2022 one smaller but harder to find out or solve

[Dee]

But I must say, Mercedes car also(like most cars) looks like a handfull no matter who´s driving. LH and GR are having a hard time keeping it clean over a whole lap.

Dont forget 12 months ago the Mercedes looked way worse that it does currently. And it went out to win 3 of the first 4 races. The car almost looked undrivable in testing last year.

This is not like if 1+1= 2 then 2+2=4 situation. They can solve like you said but there is possibility of that they can't. Maybe 2021 issue was bigger but easy to solve, 2022 one smaller but harder to find out or solve

2021 - fix a part of the car with 7 years knowledge of the general concept
2022 - design a whole new car and fix an issue that didn't show up in the sim

They are not at all the same

[Tommy Cookers]

2 things:
1/ jet boat runs last for less than 5 mins.
2/ jet boats lean heavily into corners so the 7g is not a sustained horizontal side force like in an F1 car.

interesting footage ....

also .....
the jet boat can't sustain 7 g - seemingly using up kinetic energy much faster than its propulsion system can create it
same as a plane
the current jet boat has a low 'L/D' ratio in cornering
but a jet boat with dedicated hydrofoils vertical for cornering probably could sustain 7 g

[djos]

Good points, they are quite unlikely to allow hydrofoils anytime soon, Jerry boats are fast enough as it is.

[NathanOlder]

But I must say, Mercedes car also(like most cars) looks like a handfull no matter who´s driving. LH and GR are having a hard time keeping it clean over a whole lap.

Dont forget 12 months ago the Mercedes looked way worse that it does currently. And it went out to win 3 of the first 4 races. The car almost looked undrivable in testing last year.

This is not like if 1+1= 2 then 2+2=4 situation. They can solve like you said but there is possibility of that they can't. Maybe 2021 issue was bigger but easy to solve, 2022 one smaller but harder to find out or solve

How do you know its harder to solve ? lots of the cars looked bad in barcelona and look a lot better in Bahrain. Mercedes bring a huge update so are almost at square 1 again, so the data taken from here will go to fix the car for next week(s)

[NathanOlder]

Dont forget 12 months ago the Mercedes looked way worse that it does currently. And it went out to win 3 of the first 4 races. The car almost looked undrivable in testing last year.

This is not like if 1+1= 2 then 2+2=4 situation. They can solve like you said but there is possibility of that they can't. Maybe 2021 issue was bigger but easy to solve, 2022 one smaller but harder to find out or solve

2021 - fix a part of the car with 7 years knowledge of the general concept
2022 - design a whole new car and fix an issue that didn't show up in the sim

They are not at all the same

Indeed, but you can look at it from the opposite side and think, with 7 years knowledge they still got it wrong to start with, so would have been thinking wtf do we do to fix this, we know everything already how did we get it wrong after all this knowledge.


Here we have 3 days knowledge prior to the Bahrain test. So fixes can come thick and fast as they have no previous knowledge.

[etusch]

This is not like if 1+1= 2 then 2+2=4 situation. They can solve like you said but there is possibility of that they can't. Maybe 2021 issue was bigger but easy to solve, 2022 one smaller but harder to find out or solve

2021 - fix a part of the car with 7 years knowledge of the general concept
2022 - design a whole new car and fix an issue that didn't show up in the sim

They are not at all the same

Indeed, but you can look at it from the opposite side and think, with 7 years knowledge they still got it wrong to start with, so would have been thinking wtf do we do to fix this, we know everything already how did we get it wrong after all this knowledge.


Here we have 3 days knowledge prior to the Bahrain test. So fixes can come thick and fast as they have no previous knowledge.

this is wishfull thinking and you forcing yourself hard to not understand.
If making something good were guaranty to do good next one too we would see same team as champion over and over again. As you said they did wrong inspite of 7 years experience. So experience doesn't guranty anything. maybe makes higher possibility of solving issue but not guaranty it

[shamyakovic]

Lewis having a great race run, almost upto 60 laps now... the car looks very stable. Lewis following around gasly very very closely and very easily for 5 laps nd overtaken him back.
Overtaking gasly and Lewis each other, having fun.. it looks like the new regs are working

[Shrieker]

Hamilton / Gasly race was the tits

[etusch]

I wonder what kind of stupid split screen when two cars racing. I don't think there is even one person who want to see davidson in this time.

[NathanOlder]

2021 - fix a part of the car with 7 years knowledge of the general concept
2022 - design a whole new car and fix an issue that didn't show up in the sim

They are not at all the same

Indeed, but you can look at it from the opposite side and think, with 7 years knowledge they still got it wrong to start with, so would have been thinking wtf do we do to fix this, we know everything already how did we get it wrong after all this knowledge.


Here we have 3 days knowledge prior to the Bahrain test. So fixes can come thick and fast as they have no previous knowledge.

this is wishfull thinking and you forcing yourself hard to not understand.
If making something good were guaranty to do good next one too we would see same team as champion over and over again. As you said they did wrong inspite of 7 years experience. So experience doesn't guranty anything. maybe makes higher possibility of solving issue but not guaranty it

Ok , Merc are screwed and their car looks a a handful to drive , despite the current laptimes.

[KiLLu12258]

im sure mercedes is running with a lot of fuel and maybe low engine modes on the other hand its clear that they have some issues.

At the end -maybe- its a setup thing. We had that many many times that mercedes is struggling with finding the right settings and when they nailed it they were incredible fast.

[shamyakovic]

Indeed, but you can look at it from the opposite side and think, with 7 years knowledge they still got it wrong to start with, so would have been thinking wtf do we do to fix this, we know everything already how did we get it wrong after all this knowledge.


Here we have 3 days knowledge prior to the Bahrain test. So fixes can come thick and fast as they have no previous knowledge.

this is wishfull thinking and you forcing yourself hard to not understand.
If making something good were guaranty to do good next one too we would see same team as champion over and over again. As you said they did wrong inspite of 7 years experience. So experience doesn't guranty anything. maybe makes higher possibility of solving issue but not guaranty it

Ok , Merc are screwed and their car looks a a handful to drive , despite the current laptimes.

Merc looks very very stable during their current rave stint... almost as stable as the ferrari

[shamyakovic]

Hamilton / Gasly race was the tits

It was fun to see.