Mercedes W13

[Jozsusz]

Well, to be honest it's not that bad.
Hamilton couldn't do 2 laps on new tires, I guess there was 1-2 tenths in the lap, 6 tenths deficit isn't that bad if this car is a pure compromise now.

Lewis also was 2 tenths slower in Q3 than in Q2.
So we can say Merc's deficit is more or less 5 tenths.

[zubster]

Yeah considering the compromised setup, this isn't too bad. Once they unlock the pace (which isn't guaranteed), I assume they will be right up there

[BSchelbergen]

Well, to be honest it's not that bad.
Hamilton couldn't do 2 laps on new tires, I guess there was 1-2 tenths in the lap, 6 tenths deficit isn't that bad if this car is a pure compromise now.

Lewis also was 2 tenths slower in Q3 than in Q2.
So we can say Merc's deficit is more or less 5 tenths.

I added up the best sectors from the top 10 (taken from shamyakovic screenshot), I know it's not totally representative (don't know how the prep lap for tires was or them falling of during another sector) but lewis' time is ''only'' 0,363 of charles' best combined effort. Should be overcomable if the car is handling properly and if they can tap into the promised locked potential.

[Jozsusz]

Well, to be honest it's not that bad.
Hamilton couldn't do 2 laps on new tires, I guess there was 1-2 tenths in the lap, 6 tenths deficit isn't that bad if this car is a pure compromise now.

Lewis also was 2 tenths slower in Q3 than in Q2.
So we can say Merc's deficit is more or less 5 tenths.

I added up the best sectors from the top 10 (taken from shamyakovic screenshot), I know it's not totally representative (don't know how the prep lap for tires was or them falling of during another sector) but lewis' time is ''only'' 0,363 of charles' best combined effort. Should be overcomable if the car is handling properly and if they can tap into the promised locked potential.

Yeah, 4-5 tenths is absolutely managable given the compromises.
I think this car should be a good one once they sort out the problems.
Question if they can do it quickly...

[Jozsusz]

Well, to be honest it's not that bad.
Hamilton couldn't do 2 laps on new tires, I guess there was 1-2 tenths in the lap, 6 tenths deficit isn't that bad if this car is a pure compromise now.

Lewis also was 2 tenths slower in Q3 than in Q2.
So we can say Merc's deficit is more or less 5 tenths.

I added up the best sectors from the top 10 (taken from shamyakovic screenshot), I know it's not totally representative (don't know how the prep lap for tires was or them falling of during another sector) but lewis' time is ''only'' 0,363 of charles' best combined effort. Should be overcomable if the car is handling properly and if they can tap into the promised locked potential.

Yeah, 4-5 tenths is absolutely managable given the compromises.
I think this car should be a good one once they sort out the problems.
Question if they can do it quickly...

[Sofa King]

‪Mercedes is only .08 seconds further back from pole on their best lap than they were last year‬

[GrizzleBoy]

Interesting that Toto said the car is very draggy in the sky interview after qualifying.

[zibby43]

As they’re trying to fix the porpoising (5 weeks hasn’t worked so far), if it takes another 5 weeks, the teams they’re trying to catch will be 5 tenths ahead by then via development.

Such is the learning curve with new regs, which is why a bad start like this is almost disastrous. I’m more inclined to believe this will hurt them for multiple seasons as opposed to a few races.

Hope I’m dead wrong.

[shamyakovic]

Interesting that Toto said the car is very draggy in the sky interview after qualifying.

That's because they raised their for due to bouncing. That meant they need more downforce and that was achieved by very high wing levels.. hence he mentioned draggy

[silver]

Interesting that Toto said the car is very draggy in the sky interview after qualifying.

That's because they raised their for due to bouncing. That meant they need more downforce and that was achieved by very high wing levels.. hence he mentioned draggy

You have got it all mixed up there.

[GrizzleBoy]

Interesting that Toto said the car is very draggy in the sky interview after qualifying.

That's because they raised their for due to bouncing. That meant they need more downforce and that was achieved by very high wing levels.. hence he mentioned draggy

That is interesting since they've had the most drastic wing angles out of everyone since they revealed their car.

[Vanja #66]

Their mirror wing is big on drag, let's not forget that.

[GrizzleBoy]

What would stop them just putting a piece of slim vertical bodywork between the top (or even bottom of the zero pod and upper crash structure in an outwashing shape like the old barge boards of the last regs?

Also, merc engine cars are just doing poorly overall, so maybe its that too.

[chrisc90]

What would stop them just putting a piece of slim vertical bodywork between the top (or even bottom of the zero pod and upper crash structure in an outwashing shape like the old barge boards of the last regs?

Probably the limitations on the number of axis you can can have on one plane. (i think its axis you call them)

[Mchamilton]

As they’re trying to fix the porpoising (5 weeks hasn’t worked so far), if it takes another 5 weeks, the teams they’re trying to catch will be 5 tenths ahead by then via development.

Such is the learning curve with new regs, which is why a bad start like this is almost disastrous. I’m more inclined to believe this will hurt them for multiple seasons as opposed to a few races.

Hope I’m dead wrong.

Or conversely, solving a fundamental issue like porpoising, which is forcing them to run a quite severely compromised setup, is likely to give then a much bigger boost in performance than any team who have solved it can achieve through 'normal' development.

AM reckon theyre giving away 0.5-0.75 seconds due to running such a compromised setup to avoid porpoising.