2022 - McLaren Formula 1 Team

[proteus]

Let's say we fix whatever issues are limiting performance. Is that gonna put us at the level of Mercedes at least?

If they fix everything that limits their performance they will be infront of everybody with seconds of advantage, winning the drivers title and constructors as well.

[kc_f1]

This.was.painful.
From the hope we got in Barcelona to this. Polar opposites.

How could Seidl, Key & co not know that they have messed up. Don't see much hope. The kind of issues they are talking about, doesn't seem there is going to be a quick fix. Good luck breaking into the top 10 by mid-summer.

#disappointedfan

[Emag]

The feeling from the team is that they have given up….no fighting spirit…at least give the fans something to belive. Lando and Danny looks completly empty in the eyes…

I understand that when you are down yourself and you look at the team hoping for some positivity, but you see sad faces all around. Yeah, it doesn't look good. But you have to see it from their perspective as well. If we are disappointed, you have to assume the people who are actually working for that team are 2x more disappointed.

No amount of PR training will make you send positive vibes after this tough weekend. And obviously, the drivers themselves are probably not very involved in the technical side of things. So it is not impossible that they may not (yet) know how deep the problems lie, and what sort of effort is required to fix them.

[Emag]

Let's say we fix whatever issues are limiting performance. Is that gonna put us at the level of Mercedes at least?

If they fix everything that limits their performance they will be infront of everybody with seconds of advantage, winning the drivers title and constructors as well.

Agreed. They will probably have enough of a margin by the end of the season that all the other teams concede the 2023 titles as well because they know it would be pointless to fight for it.

[bauc]

Wtf are you on about.

As i said is my opinion. They ditched Honda when they were showing progress after enduring the worst. Now is 1st or second best engine on grid with the new homologued ones. Let’s see how long they realised that the new Mercedes engine is not as much powerful as Ferrari and Honda. Old drama yes but I believe and it is my opinion that they will regret in near future.

Well there's your Honda today. 3 out if 4 engine failures. Honda are trash just like your ancient outdated pointless opinion.

Fuel pump failure for all 3 Honda engines (Fuel pump is standardized for all teams from this season) and possible the reason why Mercedes engines are running in lean mode for now.

All teams have troubles, part the Ferrari powered one's ....

We will see how this story will develop.

[Redragon]

Wtf are you on about.

As i said is my opinion. They ditched Honda when they were showing progress after enduring the worst. Now is 1st or second best engine on grid with the new homologued ones. Let’s see how long they realised that the new Mercedes engine is not as much powerful as Ferrari and Honda. Old drama yes but I believe and it is my opinion that they will regret in near future.

Well there's your Honda today. 3 out if 4 engine failures. Honda are trash just like your ancient outdated pointless opinion.

As I said is my opinion, I haven't insulted no undermine your opinion. So your passive agression is unnecesary. 2 of the engines were failure of the FIA pump. Time will say who is right or who is not. If you feel the mercedes engine and how the team is going is the best it can be, so be it. i am not going to change your mind

[EddyBaggio]

The feeling from the team is that they have given up….no fighting spirit…at least give the fans something to belive. Lando and Danny looks completly empty in the eyes…

I understand that when you are down yourself and you look at the team hoping for some positivity, but you see sad faces all around. Yeah, it doesn't look good. But you have to see it from their perspective as well. If we are disappointed, you have to assume the people who are actually working for that team are 2x more disappointed.

No amount of PR training will make you send positive vibes after this tough weekend. And obviously, the drivers themselves are probably not very involved in the technical side of things. So it is not impossible that they may not (yet) know how deep the problems lie, and what sort of effort is required to fix them.

Yeah I see your point. Maybe I wanted to see more frustation, some anger maybe. Well I dont know, just so depressing.

I have no hope for next race but someway along the season they will find a way to atleast get some points.

[runningmanz]

Woeful race pace, awful to watch us being sitting ducks lap after lap, looking forward to hearing the teams explanation and how they plan to try and fix these issues going forward. Bloody disappointing start to the season.

[bauc]

Woeful race pace, awful to watch us being sitting ducks lap after lap, looking forward to hearing the teams explanation and how they plan to try and fix these issues going forward. Bloody disappointing start to the season.

I will assume from past experience they will work on a major update for the Barcelona GP, if it does not work they will focus on next year as if they remain stuck at the bottom of the table, at mid season they will get more R&D points from FIA and they will be able to catch up (hopefully)

[Emag]

Woeful race pace, awful to watch us being sitting ducks lap after lap, looking forward to hearing the teams explanation and how they plan to try and fix these issues going forward. Bloody disappointing start to the season.

I will assume from past experience they will work on a major update for the Barcelona GP, if it does not work they will focus on next year as if they remain stuck at the bottom of the table, at mid season they will get more R&D points from FIA and they will be able to catch up (hopefully)

This is a very long season though ... It would suck if we are going to have to deal with the latter.

[bauc]

Woeful race pace, awful to watch us being sitting ducks lap after lap, looking forward to hearing the teams explanation and how they plan to try and fix these issues going forward. Bloody disappointing start to the season.

I will assume from past experience they will work on a major update for the Barcelona GP, if it does not work they will focus on next year as if they remain stuck at the bottom of the table, at mid season they will get more R&D points from FIA and they will be able to catch up (hopefully)

This is a very long season though ... It would suck if we are going to have to deal with the latter.

Yes, its a long season but inhouse development calendar usually dictates that the new car draft is more or less drown around June and final approval goes around September.

So if this is still true, Barcelona GP is at end of May, meaning if the update package works, they will push the development of the existing model as much as possible till the end, if not ... here comes next season challenger.

[taperoo2k]

Pretty much what I expected for McLaren tbh. Those brake issues have put them on the backfoot, hopefully once those are fixed and other issues are ironed out
we'll see the performance of the car. Did the upgrade package for this race appear or has it been delayed due to the brake issues ?

[CjC]

You have to wonder if the penny had dropped after the Bahrain test where Mclaren saw that they are towards the back on pace so they started the B team argument again because likes of Haas and Alfa have leaped frogged them.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/mclar ... d/9011783/

We didn’t hear much on this when Mclaren had a performance advantage over the aforementioned squads the last few seasons

[Balalu]

You have to wonder if the penny had dropped after the Bahrain test where Mclaren saw that they are towards the back on pace so they started the B team argument again because likes of Haas and Alfa have leaped frogged them.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/mclar ... d/9011783/

We didn’t hear much on this when Mclaren had a performance advantage over the aforementioned squads the last few seasons

That is not true. McLaren have been bringing this subject up from time to time in the past 3 years or so.

[Balalu]