2022 - McLaren Formula 1 Team

[SmallSoldier]

An small win out of a very rough Grand Prix… When was the last time the team had the fastest pitstop?

[ort895]

MGU-K for Gasly, otherwise you are correct.

As i said is my opinion. They ditched Honda when they were showing progress after enduring the worst. Now is 1st or second best engine on grid with the new homologued ones. Let’s see how long they realised that the new Mercedes engine is not as much powerful as Ferrari and Honda. Old drama yes but I believe and it is my opinion that they will regret in near future.

Well there's your Honda today. 3 out if 4 engine failures. Honda are trash just like your ancient outdated pointless opinion.

Fuel pump failure for all 3 Honda engines (Fuel pump is standardized for all teams from this season) and possible the reason why Mercedes engines are running in lean mode for now.

All teams have troubles, part the Ferrari powered one's ....

We will see how this story will develop.

[NiyolHuayra]

This thread went from nice to read to pure full-on negativity within one (1st) race...

[djos]

Uggh, that was a tough weekend - hopefully the full fix for the brake issue allows the lads to be more competitive at the next race.

[Szabi1112]

An small win out of a very rough Grand Prix… When was the last time the team had the fastest pitstop?

https://i.imgur.com/UYIsEHb.jpg

2012 hockenheim? Button pit stop?

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[_cerber1]

Everything has already happened, it's time to cool your head and accept the situation as it is. I would like to understand how fundamental problems can be, what are the plans and terms for their solution?

Brakes?

Downforce level?

Mercedes motor?

[djos]

Considering all the Mercedes teams seemed to be slow, it certainly seems like Ferrari got the jump in the switch to E10.

The Honda’s looked powerful, but fragile.

[CjC]

You have to wonder if the penny had dropped after the Bahrain test where Mclaren saw that they are towards the back on pace so they started the B team argument again because likes of Haas and Alfa have leaped frogged them.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/mclar ... d/9011783/

We didn’t hear much on this when Mclaren had a performance advantage over the aforementioned squads the last few seasons

That is not true. McLaren have been bringing this subject up from time to time in the past 3 years or so.

Fair enough.
I remember they blew up and rightly so about the Pink Mercedes.
I have a recollection of them bringing the B team up in the past I just thought it went on the back burner the past season or 2 but my memory has gone to pieces this past season ()

[NiyolHuayra]

Uggh, that was a tough weekend - hopefully the full fix for the brake issue allows the lads to be more competitive at the next race.

Hope the same, I'll give them time for the first 3 races. If they are at the bottom in Australia then I'll panic

[FittingMechanics]

It is very likely that Mercedes engine is down on power at the moment.
Honda probably remained the same.
Renault probably the same.
Ferrari got a big bump.

All Mercedes teams are much worse than last year.
Honda teams are kind of the same.
Renault the same.
Ferrari teams all are much better.

It's unlikely the major differentiator is aero as it wouldn't fit this perfectly.

[Mclarensenna]

It is very likely that Mercedes engine is down on power at the moment.
Honda probably remained the same.
Renault probably the same.
Ferrari got a big bump.

All Mercedes teams are much worse than last year.
Honda teams are kind of the same.
Renault the same.
Ferrari teams all are much better.

It's unlikely the major differentiator is aero as it wouldn't fit this perfectly.

Ever since Andy Cowell left Mercedes in mid 2020 the Mercedes engine has slowly lost its dominance. Is it merely a coincidence? Thoughts?

[JordanMugen]

I remember they blew up and rightly so about the Pink Mercedes.

We didn’t hear much on this when Mclaren had a performance advantage over the aforementioned squads the last few seasons

I had advocated for Renault (Alpine) and McLaren to combine forces and use the same gearbox and rear suspension (and same wind tunnel, simulator & AVL same full car dyno too I guess). I still think that would've been a good idea - shared expenses, efficiencies, cost-savings etcetera - yet McLaren went to Mercedes customer units instead and without taking the gearbox.

[genarro]

Do you maybe know what is the problem? Is it a fundamental design problem or just underdevelopment due to lack of running?

Over winter Mclaren thought they'd got almost as much downforce back as the old cars, they reckoned they were half a second off the previous cars, plus the +1.5 seconds the new wheels and tyres cost, so 2 seconds down on last years lap times.

That suggests there's a lot of performance in the car they just need to get on top of their issues so they can set the car up and get it down on the floor, these 2022 cars are incredibly sensitive to mechanical setup, far more than last years cars. I think we'll get much bigger swings between cars on different tracks this year because of it.

Guess we'll have to wait and see if they can unlock the performance of the car. I think the pack will be closer together in Jeddah because the teams will have the same amount of time to adapt to the track.

We just have to wait and see what the season brings.

[Jambier]

According to Norris: Downforce
Not enough, makes the car undrivable, poor front end, poor rear end.

The engine is not helping also, I'm very surprised by that.

- Mercedes engine seems poor
- Ferrari engine very strong
- Honda engine, same, but not reliable
- Renault engine was second on Vmax, so big progress, but the Enstone chassis is pure crap as always

Anyway, I can't understand how McLaren and Alpine can have fail that way... they are "big" teams now, they should be chasing podiums in 2022 and leveraging the poor for of Mercedes team.

Incredible to see this fail, especially for McLaren