2022 - McLaren Formula 1 Team

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mclaren111 wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 11:11
EddyBaggio wrote:
25 Mar 2022, 16:21
Darth-Piekus wrote:
25 Mar 2022, 15:43
Can we expect something better in Saudi Arabia this weekend? Some better set up that might move us up the order or some quick fix?
No updates brought to Saudi. So i dont think we will be better than last weekend.

https://the-race.com/formula-1/the-sau ... -revealed/
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOpKN5FXMAU ... name=large


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strange when you have to tell about what changes you made from last week according to F1's new policy.

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Agreed... I don't like it...

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EddyBaggio wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 13:26
mclaren111 wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 11:11
EddyBaggio wrote:
25 Mar 2022, 16:21


No updates brought to Saudi. So i dont think we will be better than last weekend.

https://the-race.com/formula-1/the-sau ... -revealed/
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOpKN5FXMAU ... name=large


FW Changes...
strange when you have to tell about what changes you made from last week according to F1's new policy.
From what I see they had this spec in Bahrain but didn't use it, don't know what the regs say to bringing a different spec but it's not a new spec.

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DragonSGC wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 13:42
EddyBaggio wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 13:26
strange when you have to tell about what changes you made from last week according to F1's new policy.
From what I see they had this spec in Bahrain but didn't use it, don't know what the regs say to bringing a different spec but it's not a new spec.

Thx... Did not know it was in Bahrain...

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FP3 doesn't seem to be going any different from Bahrain and all the Mercedes engine cars including the factory team are slow. I find it unbelievable that Haas and Alfa Romeo who were 2 seconds off the pace last year suddenly being a super team.

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 16:41
FP3 doesn't seem to be going any different from Bahrain and all the Mercedes engine cars including the factory team are slow. I find it unbelievable that Haas and Alfa Romeo who were 2 seconds off the pace last year suddenly being a super team.
This track will truly identify if the merc PU is underpowered ,whether by design mistake or they mucked up the cooling reqs and have to, as well as customers, turn down the PU's. Merc can't claim they are running a barn door to explain their poor speed, we await the quali speed trap data.
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There was a graph that showed Norris losing 3 tenths in a single turn, compared to Leclerc. Norris accelerated earlier but also braked earlier. Doesn't this mean that he cant trailbreak as he used to due to the duct problem? (or Leclerc does it even better..).

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chrisgr wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 16:49
There was a graph that showed Norris losing 3 tenths in a single turn, compared to Leclerc. Norris accelerated earlier but also braked earlier. Doesn't this mean that he cant trailbreak as he used to due to the duct problem? (or Leclerc does it even better..).
It’s FP3, not really representative… Don’t reach too much into it, specially not individual corners… Those difference will be better spotted in Qualy,

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DragonSGC wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 16:48
This track will truly identify if the merc PU is underpowered ,whether by design mistake or they mucked up the cooling reqs and have to, as well as customers, turn down the PU's. Merc can't claim they are running a barn door to explain their poor speed, we await the quali speed trap data.
If Mercedes was supposed to be on the level of Ferrari and Red Bull meaning 1 second faster then Mclaren, Aston Martin and Williams should be behind Mercedes if the same thing applies with the Torro Rosso and the Alfa Romeo.

I find it hard to believe these Ferrari B Teams who were so much back suddenly are so much in front without at least some reasons happening. You can't cover 3 seconds aerodynamically that easily.

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Let's see how it goes on quali now. I am not expecting big improvements from last week, but I am hoping for a slightly better showing here. So far, it looks like Mercedes might be down on power compared to the other PUs though, and that's a bit worrying for the future.

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 16:57
DragonSGC wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 16:48
This track will truly identify if the merc PU is underpowered ,whether by design mistake or they mucked up the cooling reqs and have to, as well as customers, turn down the PU's. Merc can't claim they are running a barn door to explain their poor speed, we await the quali speed trap data.
If Mercedes was supposed to be on the level of Ferrari and Red Bull meaning 1 second faster then Mclaren, Aston Martin and Williams should be behind Mercedes if the same thing applies with the Torro Rosso and the Alfa Romeo.

I find it hard to believe these Ferrari B Teams who were so much back suddenly are so much in front without at least some reasons happening. You can't cover 3 seconds aerodynamically that easily.
Those teams were at the bottom of the grid and had more CFD and Wind Tunnel Time than most, it is not surprising they have gain a lot of time based on aero… I would have expected Williams to be up there with them actually, that’s the anomaly.

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Emag wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 17:04
Let's see how it goes on quali now. I am not expecting big improvements from last week, but I am hoping for a slightly better showing here. So far, it looks like Mercedes might be down on power compared to the other PUs though, and that's a bit worrying for the future.
Can all the Mercedes teams be one second off the pace due to the engine being down on power? If what the engine has is solved can Mercedes find one second along with the B Teams?

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Fighting not to be the worst team on the entire grid. What a real shame...

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 16:57
I find it hard to believe these Ferrari B Teams who were so much back suddenly are so much in front without at least some reasons happening. You can't cover 3 seconds aerodynamically that easily.
The regulations changed this year. All teams started their projects with a clean sheet, you can't compare their losses from 2021 to this season
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blastdoman wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 17:17
Fighting not to be the worst team on the entire grid. What a real shame...
This is old news. Did you expected them to suddenly fight for the podium a week later?

This is the reality, they haven't done a good enough job. Just have to wait and see if they can come back later on the season, because right now it's going to be a lot of the same disappointment as Bahrain.