2022 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix - Jeddah, March 25 - 27

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Re: 2022 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix - Jeddah, March 25 - 27

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__________ wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 17:26
morefirejules08 wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 17:25
__________ wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 17:14


This is so beautiful. The bottom 7 engines are all Mercedes as well. =D>
“Beautiful” because?
I was sick of Mercedes dominance.
Seems rather small minded

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Juzh wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 17:19
LM10 wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 17:05
That first sector from Leclerc was something - 3 tenths faster than Max. I’m excited to see how much each team has left to offer for qualifying.
Was actually 0.18s, but yes, ferrari is consistently beter in S1.
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LM10 wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 17:26
Juzh wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 17:19
LM10 wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 17:05
That first sector from Leclerc was something - 3 tenths faster than Max. I’m excited to see how much each team has left to offer for qualifying.
Was actually 0.18s, but yes, ferrari is consistently beter in S1.
Didn’t Max do his fastest S1 time in his fastest lap? Because when compared to that lap, Charles’ S1 was 3 tenths faster.
He improved in S1 on his aborted lap.

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Wouter wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 13:07
No one is talking about this being a very dangerous circuit anymore.
A few things have changed, but it remains a very, very dangerous track. You can wait for the first major accident to happen.

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Yup, I also noticed that. It will take someone to seriously injure himself(to not say something worse) to FIA, then, resort to their typical kneejerk reactions because they are desperate to hide their guilt

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Vanja #66 wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 17:16
Honda is the most powerful engine, no doubt about it...
I think it’s early to say with certainty. While RBR has the higher top speeds, the Ferrari has the better low to mid speed acceleration which usually is a better indication for power.

In Bahrain the RBR had less rear wing. In Jeddah it’s again the case and this time even more so it looks like when comparing the rear wings.

Another thing to consider is if or which of the teams even turned it up. Ferrari is rumored to have not stressed the PU in this season yet and was not planning to do it in Jeddah either. Only later in the season once they’ve further checked the reliability.

The most crucial information we have is from Binotto and if he is to be believed, Ferrari is at least on par with others, if not ahead. That’s what he told.

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morefirejules08 wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 17:27
__________ wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 17:26
morefirejules08 wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 17:25

“Beautiful” because?
I was sick of Mercedes dominance.
Seems rather small minded
Some of us want to see more & different teams battle it out up front. We're finally getting it.
"Power is only given to those who lower themselves to pick it up" - Ragnar Lothbrok

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Juzh wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 17:19
LM10 wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 17:05
That first sector from Leclerc was something - 3 tenths faster than Max. I’m excited to see how much each team has left to offer for qualifying.
Was actually 0.18s, but yes, ferrari is consistently beter in S1.
S1 rewards downforce, the final sector rewards RB top speed.

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__________ wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 17:34
morefirejules08 wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 17:27
__________ wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 17:26


I was sick of Mercedes dominance.
Seems rather small minded
Some of us want to see more & different teams battle it out up front. We're finally getting it.
Celebrating the failures of those you dislike such as you have done, rather than the successes of those you do will never be something which I understand.

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LM10 wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 17:32
Vanja #66 wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 17:16
Honda is the most powerful engine, no doubt about it...
I think it’s early to say with certainty. While RBR has the higher top speeds, the Ferrari has the better low to mid speed acceleration which usually is a better indication for power.

In Bahrain the RBR had less rear wing. In Jeddah it’s again the case and this time even more so it looks like when comparing the rear wings.

Another thing to consider is if or which of the teams even turned it up. Ferrari is rumored to have not stressed the PU in this season yet and was not planning to do it in Jeddah either. Only later in the season once they’ve further checked the reliability.

The most crucial information we have is from Binotto and if he is to be believed, Ferrari is at least on par with others, if not ahead. That’s what he told.
Mercedes claimed that they were slow at bahrain because they used bigger rear wing. I don't know if they are good at max speed here while they are looking like they had cut their rear wing from top as Toto had said. They use smaller sidepod smaller wing and if they are slower....
I think you cannot compare two teams' df and drag level just looking rear wing.
Better low speed acceleration means power? For me this is very strange.

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morefirejules08 wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 17:40
__________ wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 17:34
morefirejules08 wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 17:27


Seems rather small minded
Some of us want to see more & different teams battle it out up front. We're finally getting it.
Celebrating the failures of those you dislike such as you have done, rather than the successes of those you do will never be something which I understand.
if you can not understand you can sorrow about yourself. You like them so much and this has logic? then someone else can hate from them at same level.

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Sevach wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 17:04
Sainz still bouncing, what's so different between his car and Leclerc's?

Despite Charles ending FP3 in front Max looked like he had more on hand.
definitely, he probably would have been sth like 3 or 4 tenths quicker without that mistake. But Red Bull tends to run FP3 with a bit more power, while (going by the small gap to Bottas) Ferrari looks likely to still have it turned down

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Wouter wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 13:07
No one is talking about this being a very dangerous circuit anymore.
A few things have changed, but it remains a very, very dangerous track. You can wait for the first major accident to happen.

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drivers should be clever here. for example they must never be slow at a blind spot to avoid a faster car accident which can not see it. This is not different from monaco or baku only speed difference.
Maybe they can do a lighting system warns driver about blind spots.

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etusch wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 17:44
morefirejules08 wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 17:40
__________ wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 17:34


Some of us want to see more & different teams battle it out up front. We're finally getting it.
Celebrating the failures of those you dislike such as you have done, rather than the successes of those you do will never be something which I understand.
if you can not understand you can sorrow about yourself. You like them so much and this has logic? then someone else can hate from them at same level.
Why would I “sorrow about myself”? I would rather celebrate the success of the people/teams I support rather than the failures of those I do not. Personally I find cheering on the failures of others somewhat childish and small minded, but that’s just me.

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Here's the FP3 telemetry and judging by the straight to T27 and to finish line I don't think VER has more in the bag than LEC.

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Ferrari looks to not have accelerated much in those last 2 straights actually but totally dominant in T4-12 and came out of T17 and T22 with so much more speed than the rest.

Also starting lap speed was much lower from LEC as well as plenty of lifting from LEC still.

It does seem like LEC can go faster by quite a margin.

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In FP3 session HAM did the longest stint of all drivers: a 10 lap stint on soft tyres, doing a fast lap then a slow lap afterwards, setting constantly lap times in the low 1:30 when he was doing those fast laps ... what he was trying to do?
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