I used to be a sim nut. It all started when I played Indy 500 for the first time on PC. This brought me to Geoff Crammond's GP series, which was great until GP3.
Gp3, IMHO, had the best balance of 'real' physics and fun.
rFactor is serious business. I appreciate the level of physics that go into the game, but I find these physics useless as half of the driving of a car is feel, and force feedback does not count as feel
for me, racing is about being a driver. On my 360, I play Project Gotham Racing 4 on xbox live almost exclusively.
I know the physics are far from perfect, but it does offer the basics that I want out of a racing game.
First off, I don't want to have to play with settings. I know I can tweak, but I just want to get in an equal car, and beat you.
The thing about PGR4, vs say Forza2, or others, is that the game concentrates on the true basics of racing. Good lines, good braking, and good throttle control, and of course, concentration.
Grand Prix Legends is still my favorite game to date for raw fun, and difficulty. Getting around any of the tracks in that game without spinning out, let alone getting a fastish lap, takes a lot of work.
When I try to do a fast lap in that PGR, against 30,000-50,000 people for each iteration of each track, I always place in the top 500, usually the top 300, usually the 1-2 percentile. And, I do it without "cheating" (wall bouncing instead of braking etc).
The thing is thought, when I beat you at PGR4, I know it was 100% me and my driving, and not the fact you have found a better setup.
I'm not slaggin rFactor here, because I know it is the cats ass when it comes to physics and developed car and track packages, it's just my ass can't feel the physics they have tried so hard to program in. I bashed around the 2006 CTP(?) mod for about a year off and on, but kept going back to my 'shitty console'
Something about beating a bunch of CLK's and Caparo T1's in a race, in the snow, in a 1054-1960 Maserati 250f, with pure ass out sideways driving, doesn't happen in rFactor
For realism, rFactor and GTR2, for fun, PGR4 is hard to beat on Xbox Live.