Ferrari F1-75

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siskue2005 wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 23:46
N21 wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 23:42
Not sure if anyone noted or if it has been mentioned before but the front wing sections on either side appear to be separated - by two metal parts - in an inside and outside section. The outside sections (on the end plate side) appear to be flexing while the inside section on the nose side remains in position
its similar type to merc front wing
Ah Allright. I wasnt’t paying much attention to the mercs tbh. If it’s legal, seems like a clever trick

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N21 wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 23:48
siskue2005 wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 23:46
N21 wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 23:42
Not sure if anyone noted or if it has been mentioned before but the front wing sections on either side appear to be separated - by two metal parts - in an inside and outside section. The outside sections (on the end plate side) appear to be flexing while the inside section on the nose side remains in position
its similar type to merc front wing
Ah Allright. I wasnt’t paying much attention to the mercs tbh. If it’s legal, seems like a clever trick
I hope we will not another flexy-wing discussion this year...its part of F1 for a long time. In the 80's Rory Byrne introduced rear wing mountings with cables that allowed the rear-wing to flex backwards and reduce drag. In 1992 Fondmetal and others were using concave(not flat!)underfloors using +/-5mm regulation tolerance and hanging the floor with cables, so the sides were closing the gap with the floor(Ferrari did exactly that in 1999 for the last 3 races, also the bargeboards flexed and affected the flow under the car). In the mid and late 90's almost all the teams used aeroelasticity and designed bargeboards, front and rearwings to benefit from aeroelasticity. I remember McLarens frontwing in 1995 or Ferraris flexy wing in 1997. Both helped to reduce aero pitch balance problems. In McLarens case the front flap deflected(twisted backwards) with increasing speed and then "stood up" more as the speed decreased , causing a balance shift forwards and more oversteer. Aeroelasticity allowed the mainplane to deflect more at its ends(increasing downforce) with increasing speed, whilst at the same time the flap twisted backwards(decreasing downforce)such that the two cancelled out the change in aero balance. Ferrari was the best team regarding aeroelasticity in the early 00's with aeroelasticity integrated as its best in their aero-concept. In the mid 00's we had "slot-gap" rear-wings, stalling the rear-wings at high-speed to gain additional 7-8 kmhs and just recently we had again "flexy-front-wings" and rear-wings. So i really hope we do not get discussions and complaints this year. Aeroelasticity is part of F1 for about 40 years and every team made use of it. Its just ridiculous when teams are complaining about something thats part of F1 aerodynamics for such a long time just because someone has found a better way of carbon lay up that allows him to maximise the gains.

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A couple of posts about race pace have been moved to the team thread. Please post lap times in the team thread, not in the car thread. Thank you.
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Hey guys, any info about the rear suspension? I suspect they got a very solid rear end, which combines traction with stability, to make the ground effect very effective.

Where others needs to run the rear to stiff to keep the ground effect stable, or just more ride height like Mercedes.

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Hello guys,
does anyone have a picture comparing the rear wing of Ferrari and RB from Jeddah?
Thanks

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Cryptaa wrote:
27 Mar 2022, 22:12
Hello guys,
does anyone have a picture comparing the rear wing of Ferrari and RB from Jeddah?
Thanks
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AR3-GP wrote:
28 Mar 2022, 06:41
Cryptaa wrote:
27 Mar 2022, 22:12
Hello guys,
does anyone have a picture comparing the rear wing of Ferrari and RB from Jeddah?
Thanks
https://preview.redd.it/xkcw2yarzyp81.p ... 9f26080aa6
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If that is the size of the wing in Saudi, wonder how big it will be at Monaco

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Am I right in thinking that Ferrari's lack of FP2 running influenced the high downforce choice for the race? Surely if they'd done some race simulations in FP2 they would have noticed that tyre degradation wasn't that high and they would have gotten away with trimming some of it in place of some extra kph at the end of the straight.

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Similar to my RB18 post

Here is a 3D representation of the F1-75

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https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/ferrari ... b7470bffc4

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matteosc
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Very nice job! If I may suggest a "correction", I believe that the underfloor is designed differently. From what we saw in other cars, the vans are used to extract flow at the beginning of the floor and only the innermost channel goes all the way through the venturi tunnels and then to the end of the car.
Other than that, very good work!

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Great job! :o :shock:
The model isnt available for download as the author says but.... maybe with some talks with him @Vanja #66 can use this detailed model for his awesome CFD analysis :twisted: