2022 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, April 08 - 10

[vorticism]

At least the F1-75 is not one of those F1 cars with the silly narrow 180cm track (1998-2016),

The wider cars are also longer though. Proportionally the same, L:W ratio. Tire width vs overall width should also be similar since the tires are now wider. To think they got by on those 5(?) strips of rubber! Although they weighed a couple of Ducatis less. Main reference point is the helmet I guess, when looking from the front. But the halo obscures that while making the cars look taller and more 'spec' like.

[vorticism]

soon we will have standard aerodynamic wheel appendages

In fact, they almost aready do. Most of the wheel fairing is a CAD file the teams download from the FIA iirc. The little low strake behind/under the brake duct is standard. The two element curved wing over the tire is standard. They can change the brake inlet shape and the wheel arm junction shapes, but that's it.

For society to again throw money at an experimental motorsport in the way we saw in the past, will require major changes in politics and culture and religious ethos.

[NicoS]

yes, but it's for safeties... and equality...and environment...and inclusivity, in fact, its for everything except organic racing

Organic racing is discriminatory toward losers. In fact, at every single race, did you know that 95% of the participants are considered to be 'losers.' This is unfair and must be changed. A single level shared podium at the end of the 'race' (another problematic term for the sport) would be a step in the right direction.

Future event finishing order will be decided by AI machine learning based on fan polls and the preceding weeks results from the disadvantaged street kids E-prix simulator roadshow event.

[NicoS]

Anyway to get back to today's race: (








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[tomazy]

Albon did one of the longest stints in F1, if I remmember correctly, Rosberg pited on lap 1 in one Russian gp and went to the end also.

23 Alexander ALBON
LAP TIME
1 15:04:54
2 1:29.169
3 1:55.834
4 2:12.047
5 2:17.043
6 2:05.182
7 1:28.217
8 1:26.992
9 1:26.750
10 1:25.709
11 1:27.213
12 1:27.173
13 1:26.246
14 1:25.491
15 1:25.328
16 1:25.558
17 1:25.548
18 1:25.499
19 1:25.469
20 1:25.553
21 1:26.496
22 1:28.593
23 1:40.703
24 2:10.508
25 2:29.884
26 2:28.059
27 1:27.079
28 1:26.155
29 1:24.946
30 1:24.335
31 1:24.411
32 1:24.626
33 1:24.710
34 1:25.132
35 1:25.370
36 1:24.527
37 1:24.525
38 1:24.231
39 1:51.107
40 1:28.654
41 1:23.366
42 1:23.238
43 1:23.245
44 1:23.071
45 1:23.962
46 1:22.964
47 1:22.936
48 1:23.029
49 1:23.025
50 1:23.127
51 1:22.997
52 1:22.706
53 1:22.594
54 1:22.589
55 1:22.758
56 1:22.658
57 P 1:38.438

[NicoS]

Albon did one of the longest stints in F1, if I remmember correctly, Rosberg pited on lap 1 in one Russian gp and went to the end also.

23 Alexander ALBON
LAP TIME
1 15:04:54
2 1:29.169
3 1:55.834
4 2:12.047
5 2:17.043
6 2:05.182
7 1:28.217
8 1:26.992
9 1:26.750
10 1:25.709
11 1:27.213
12 1:27.173
13 1:26.246
14 1:25.491
15 1:25.328
16 1:25.558
17 1:25.548
18 1:25.499
19 1:25.469
20 1:25.553
21 1:26.496
22 1:28.593
23 1:40.703
24 2:10.508
25 2:29.884
26 2:28.059
27 1:27.079
28 1:26.155
29 1:24.946
30 1:24.335
31 1:24.411
32 1:24.626
33 1:24.710
34 1:25.132
35 1:25.370
36 1:24.527
37 1:24.525
38 1:24.231
39 1:51.107
40 1:28.654
41 1:23.366
42 1:23.238
43 1:23.245
44 1:23.071
45 1:23.962
46 1:22.964
47 1:22.936
48 1:23.029
49 1:23.025
50 1:23.127
51 1:22.997
52 1:22.706
53 1:22.594
54 1:22.589
55 1:22.758
56 1:22.658
57 P 1:38.438

cool.

[vorticism]

Future event finishing order will be decided by AI machine learning...

And also by whatever the driver had for breakfast. Spec lunches and dinners will be introduced to control the costs of teams' kitchens. Drivers will be expected to que up at the FIA cafeteria at pre-appointed meal times during the day. Breakfast survives as the last unregulated meal. Spec revelry beverages will be offered for all the non-first place winners per race. Cheers.

Yes getting back to the competition. It was good to see something other than a Mercedes win today. Then a Honda PU failed, a day after a Renault PU failed, although this may be redundant to mention.

[hollus]

Seriously, some people might want to talk about the race, please share the space and don’t litter.
And if there is little to say about the race, a short thread is perfectly OK.

I did come to page 36 to read about the race. Now by page 38, I got to read 3-4 posts about it. Not cool.

[vorticism]

Agreed, let's talk about those DRS passes. Amazing stuff, and I got to see about fifty of them; that's good value for money. The highlight was when the one guy didn't pit, securing prestigious P10.

[nimoraca]

Agreed, let's talk about those DRS passes. Amazing stuff, and I got to see about fifty of them; that's good value for money. The highlight was when the one guy didn't pit, securing prestigious P10.

Its unrealistic to expect every single event to be exciting.

[NicoS]

Agreed, let's talk about those DRS passes. Amazing stuff, and I got to see about fifty of them; that's good value for money. The highlight was when the one guy didn't pit, securing prestigious P10.

unfortunately they removed the 4th zone on "safety" grounds, had it remained we might have had 75 passes.
tyre preservation is seriously exiting. edge of your seat stuff. we must make Ross Braun a Sir! for all this.

[drunkf1fan]

What was it Lewis complaining about on those last laps?

Hold position orders Brundle hinted.

Most likely but also being pitted early as well. Ham plainly kept his tires in better than Russell, they got close for a bit but because Ham didn't fight to stay with Verstappen, didn't fight Perez hard nor pick up the pace to stay with him. He dropped back into Russell but before his stop he'd been pulling away comfortably.

In the last 2-3 years Merc have repeatedly ignored his calls to go longer and it's cost Hamilton repeatedly. A guy who can keep the tires in and is pulling away from those behind him and also in fact gaining on Perez. They panic over stuff like track position to Perez rather than plan the long game.

Ham gets the easy podium there if they keep him out as his tire condition screamed they should and then pit under safety car. Merc have been making absurd errors in strategy since all the way back in 2015 (or 14, when the pit Ham for a 'free' stop that dropped him to 3rd because they can't count properly, a mistake they've repeated since). They've just had such a dominant car bad strats mostly made no real difference in the end. The same errors had far more impact last season and already this season.

[drunkf1fan]

Agreed, let's talk about those DRS passes. Amazing stuff, and I got to see about fifty of them; that's good value for money. The highlight was when the one guy didn't pit, securing prestigious P10.

Its unrealistic to expect every single event to be exciting.

It's unrealistic to expect every event to be exciting under this formula, with these tires and these cars, absolutely. It's absolutely realistic to expect the races to be FAR more exciting than this with better choices.

Up to 2016 the tires left drivers able to drive every set differently to their wishes and meant 2-4 pitstops and lots of variations in strategies that made F1 a lot less predictable. People start strong but drop back on the wrong strat or you have a few people on a more stops but insane pace and loads of overtaking strats. You didn't really know how well each strat would play out till the end. With these moronically bad low deg extremely narrow working window tires we have 1 stop races most places and very very predictable races.

The older tires used to be take a soft and push super hard and you might be a second faster a lap but the tire only lasts 12 laps, or you take it easy and last 17 laps, or take it real easy and do 22 laps. Today you can't do that because if you go easy the tires get cold and they grain, you try to push hard not only do the immediately start overheating so you don't even get extra performance but a loss of grip, but you also blister them almost immediately. So you're in the window and they go forever now or you're out of the window and you get graining that ruins your race.

Pirelli's solution to low deg tires, less pitstops and no variation in strat, tires that go 40+ laps and have a narrow working window again.

[JPBD1990]

Australia’s been a bore fest for years. People complaining as if this is the end of ‘good’ F1 are the same people that complain when anything is new. You can see it in the comments already - 2009 was worse than the previous generation. 2017 was worse than the previous generation. Humans hate change.

A few good races from now people will forget this garbage. Unless it’s just bitter LH or Mercedes’ fans with the fear of a changing of the guard. I mean, we’ve just watched 8 seasons of Mercedes’ domination. Are we really deciding after 3 races that the new rules are a failure and the previous were better? I for one disagree. I think with time, these regs will mature, just as the last ones did and the ones before that and the ones before that, and things will tighten up and the racing will be intense. EG I remember at the start of ‘09 the cars looked like absolute dogs on track, constantly sliding vs 2000-2008 they looked fast and agile and on rails. Similar themes to this year vs last year.

Long story short, get over it and give it a chance.

Onto the race:



Race pace analysis #AustralianGP : the fastest average after Leclerc (Pérez) is still down by almost a second per lap - and the F1-75 still suffers from porpoising.



[ @f1bythenumbers ]

[vorticism]

Humans hate change.

Except when its for the better. Reddit tier phraseology there.

"I think with time, these regs will mature"

We're used to seeing freer regs tho. F.e. the front wings can't change much from what we see now. For as long as these regs remain in place. Same for bargeboards, brake ducts, etc. I think this year will show us the most diversity of approach, which then lead to convergence without maturing as we've seen in the past. There's no where to add a million winglets like we saw in 2021, f.e.

Long story short, get over it and give it a chance.

No.