2022 Alpine F1 Team

[Jambier]

Really difficult for a fan of this team…
At least they have some speed it seems, let’s hope for some big results this year and consistency in 2023

[diffuser]

Alonso’s strategy today did not make any sense at all. Very weird stuff..

Strategy was fine. Alonso couldn't go to the end of the race on mediums from lap 23....That's why they didn't pit him. When he got to mediums, they lasted only 7-8 laps. Their only chance was the long stint on the hards without safety car. The next best chance was to stay on the hards through the safety car and that's exactly what they did.

I'm not so sure about that. I think he just pitted to try and get the fastest lap. Think the real problem was that he was stuck in a DRS train.

He pitted on lap 39, was 28 laps on Mediums a bridge too far ?

Alonso's mid to low 1:24s at the end of the hards didn't get significantly faster on Mediums. I expected faster on both the old hards and fresh Mediums. His top speed numbers were significantly down from qualifying dispite having a glory run on New Mediums at the end of the race.... Was he nursing a hydraulics issue and therefore running a lower power map?

Stroll had 2 sets of New hard tires. On the first SC he pitted twice, put on mediums then put the hards back on. So basically he ran the whole race on new Hards with the exception for 1 lap on mediums under the safety car. Good strategy, it also made him alot harder to pass at the end.


I do agree they need more DF and or mechanical grip.

Atleast his PU lasted the whole race.


Not sure why they shutdown all the vents and then run into overheating problems. Hopefully having vents wouldn't have helped.


Also noticed that Alpine is at > 11.5 K RPM at 321KPH in eigth gear. Not sure how they're gonna get to a higher speed than that. Did they get the gearing wrong ?

[diffuser]

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-al ... o/9801480/

"At the moment, however, we have lost a certain Top 6 in Saudi Arabia. In Australia, on the other hand, I was fighting for the sixth-seventh position before the Safety Car. And obviously, if we take into account what happened to me in qualifying, the podium would have been very easy for me considering Verstappen's retirement. I would have beaten Russell. We are quite fast, much faster than the Mercedes on this track, so we have lost an opportunity. "

"It was difficult when I got out of the pit stop. I had 4 cars in front of me, all with DRS. If you are one on one you can pass, but when all 4 open the DRS at the same time it becomes impossible to overtake. I destroyed the tires. As I said, the situation is difficult, but this is it. We cannot look back, but only ahead of us and Imola is another opportunity ", concluded the former McLaren and Ferrari driver .

[Kamel]

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-al ... o/9801480/

"At the moment, however, we have lost a certain Top 6 in Saudi Arabia. In Australia, on the other hand, I was fighting for the sixth-seventh position before the Safety Car. And obviously, if we take into account what happened to me in qualifying, the podium would have been very easy for me considering Verstappen's retirement. I would have beaten Russell. We are quite fast, much faster than the Mercedes on this track, so we have lost an opportunity. "

"It was difficult when I got out of the pit stop. I had 4 cars in front of me, all with DRS. If you are one on one you can pass, but when all 4 open the DRS at the same time it becomes impossible to overtake. I destroyed the tires. As I said, the situation is difficult, but this is it. We cannot look back, but only ahead of us and Imola is another opportunity ", concluded the former McLaren and Ferrari driver .

I doubt. I would like to see a comparison of the lap times of Merc, Mcl drivers and Alonso, after he overtook Gasly and before the Merc, Mcl pitted. I couldn't find.
I don’t want to overestimate, but I’m looking forward to what updates are preparing Alpine for Imola and whether we can get close in speed at least to Mercedes.

[diffuser]

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-al ... o/9801480/

"At the moment, however, we have lost a certain Top 6 in Saudi Arabia. In Australia, on the other hand, I was fighting for the sixth-seventh position before the Safety Car. And obviously, if we take into account what happened to me in qualifying, the podium would have been very easy for me considering Verstappen's retirement. I would have beaten Russell. We are quite fast, much faster than the Mercedes on this track, so we have lost an opportunity. "

"It was difficult when I got out of the pit stop. I had 4 cars in front of me, all with DRS. If you are one on one you can pass, but when all 4 open the DRS at the same time it becomes impossible to overtake. I destroyed the tires. As I said, the situation is difficult, but this is it. We cannot look back, but only ahead of us and Imola is another opportunity ", concluded the former McLaren and Ferrari driver .

I doubt. I would like to see a comparison of the lap times of Merc, Mcl drivers and Alonso, after he overtook Gasly and before the Merc, Mcl pitted. I couldn't find.
I don’t want to overestimate, but I’m looking forward to what updates are preparing Alpine for Imola and whether we can get close in speed at least to Mercedes.

He never overtook gasely which is why you didn't find it.

Alonso 14	Norris 4	GASLY 10	STROLL 18	BOTTAS 77	OCON 31	           Albon 23	Russell 63		POS  1  2  3   4  5 6 7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18
39 P 2:02.407	39 1:49.077	39 1:52.820	39 1:53.545	39 1:52.906	39 1:51.485	39 1:51.107	39 1:45.539		LAP 39 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 77 18 10 14 47 24 22 20  6
40 1:30.957	40 1:31.475	40 1:28.838	40 1:28.221	40 1:31.146	40 1:29.428	40 1:28.654	40 1:34.790		LAP 40 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 47 14 24 22  6  20
41 1:23.771	41 1:23.282	41 1:23.686	41 1:24.110	41 1:23.241	41 1:23.540	41 1:23.366	41 1:22.369		LAP 41 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 47 14 24 22  6  20
42 1:23.618	42 1:23.213	42 1:24.056	42 1:23.951	42 1:23.397	42 1:23.231	42 1:23.238	42 1:22.460		LAP 42 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 47 14 24 22 20  6
43 1:23.881	43 1:23.012	43 1:23.759	43 1:23.934	43 1:23.792	43 1:23.120	43 1:23.245	43 1:22.068		LAP 43 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 47 14 24 22 20  6
44 1:23.530	44 1:22.685	44 1:24.208	44 1:24.263	44 1:24.113	44 1:22.928	44 1:23.071	44 1:22.231		LAP 44 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 47 14 24 22 20  6
45 1:24.146	45 1:22.685	45 1:24.487	45 1:24.422	45 1:24.205	45 1:23.225	45 1:23.962	45 1:22.122		LAP 45 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 14 47 24 20 22  6
46 1:23.834	46 1:22.979	46 1:23.820	46 1:23.883	46 1:24.004	46 1:22.869	46 1:22.964	46 1:22.095		LAP 46 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 14 47 24 20 22  6
47 1:23.811	47 1:22.598	47 1:23.828	47 1:23.602	47 1:23.914	47 1:23.083	47 1:22.936	47 1:22.479		LAP 47 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 14 47 24 20 22  6
48 1:23.691	48 1:22.697	48 1:23.399	48 1:23.592	48 1:23.400	48 1:23.126	48 1:23.029	48 1:22.337		LAP 48 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 14 47 24 20 22  6
49 1:24.618	49 1:22.442	49 1:23.590	49 1:23.747	49 1:23.615	49 1:23.020	49 1:23.025	49 1:21.887		LAP 49 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 14 47 24 20 22  6
50 1:24.950	50 1:22.459	50 1:23.762	50 1:25.150	50 1:24.620	50 1:22.936	50 1:23.127	50 1:22.157		LAP 50 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 10 18 77 14 24 20 47 22  6
51 1:25.328	51 1:22.739	51 1:23.261	51 1:24.966	51 1:22.797	51 1:22.980	51 1:22.997	51 1:21.777		LAP 51 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 10 77 18 14 24 20 47 22  6
52 1:26.950	52 1:22.581	52 1:22.731	52 1:23.995	52 1:22.685	52 1:22.876	52 1:22.706	52 1:22.044		LAP 52 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 10 77 18 24 20 14 47 22  6
53 P 1:40.863	53 1:22.435	53 1:25.619	53 1:23.786	53 1:22.539	53 1:23.210	53 1:22.594	53 1:21.495		LAP 53 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 77 10 18 24 20 47 22  6  14
54 1:32.889	54 1:22.309	54 1:23.531	54 1:23.870	54 1:21.651	54 1:22.944	54 1:22.589	54 1:21.766		LAP 54 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 77 10 18 24 20 47 22  6  14
55 1:21.322	55 1:22.248	55 1:23.182	55 1:23.801	55 1:22.361	55 1:23.170	55 1:22.758	55 1:22.315		LAP 55 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 77 10 18 24 20 47 22  6  14
56 1:30.367	56 1:23.860	56 1:23.031	56 1:24.933	56 1:21.894	56 1:23.059	56 1:22.658	56 1:21.938		LAP 56 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 77 10 24 18 47 20 22  6  14
57 1:20.846	57 1:24.970	57 1:23.302	57 1:24.295	57 1:22.201	57 1:23.102	57 P 1:38.438	57 1:22.491		LAP 57 16 11  63 44 4 3 31 77 23 10 24 18 47 20 22  6  14
58 1:24.744	58 1:23.333	58 1:24.460	58 1:22.757	58 1:22.469	58 1:27.465	58 1:21.879	58 X:XX.XXX		LAP 58 16 11  63 44 4 3 31 77 10 23 24 18       
	 
         

POS     1  2   3  4 5 6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18
LAP 39 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 77 18 10 14 47 24 22 20  6
LAP 40 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 47 14 24 22  6 20
LAP 41 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 47 14 24 22  6 20
LAP 42 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 47 14 24 22 20  6
LAP 43 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 47 14 24 22 20  6
LAP 44 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 47 14 24 22 20  6
LAP 45 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 14 47 24 20 22  6
LAP 46 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 14 47 24 20 22  6
LAP 47 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 14 47 24 20 22  6
LAP 48 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 14 47 24 20 22  6
LAP 49 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 14 47 24 20 22  6
LAP 50 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 10 18 77 14 24 20 47 22  6
LAP 51 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 10 77 18 14 24 20 47 22  6
LAP 52 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 10 77 18 24 20 14 47 22  6
LAP 53 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 77 10 18 24 20 47 22  6 14
LAP 54 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 77 10 18 24 20 47 22  6 14
LAP 55 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 77 10 18 24 20 47 22  6 14
LAP 56 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 77 10 24 18 47 20 22  6 14
LAP 57 16 11  63 44 4 3 31 77 23 10 24 18 47 20 22  6 14
LAP 58 16 11  63 44 4 3 31 77 10 23 24 18

[Kamel]

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-al ... o/9801480/

"At the moment, however, we have lost a certain Top 6 in Saudi Arabia. In Australia, on the other hand, I was fighting for the sixth-seventh position before the Safety Car. And obviously, if we take into account what happened to me in qualifying, the podium would have been very easy for me considering Verstappen's retirement. I would have beaten Russell. We are quite fast, much faster than the Mercedes on this track, so we have lost an opportunity. "

"It was difficult when I got out of the pit stop. I had 4 cars in front of me, all with DRS. If you are one on one you can pass, but when all 4 open the DRS at the same time it becomes impossible to overtake. I destroyed the tires. As I said, the situation is difficult, but this is it. We cannot look back, but only ahead of us and Imola is another opportunity ", concluded the former McLaren and Ferrari driver .

I doubt. I would like to see a comparison of the lap times of Merc, Mcl drivers and Alonso, after he overtook Gasly and before the Merc, Mcl pitted. I couldn't find.
I don’t want to overestimate, but I’m looking forward to what updates are preparing Alpine for Imola and whether we can get close in speed at least to Mercedes.

He never overtook gasely which is why you didn't find it.

Alonso 14	Norris 4	GASLY 10	STROLL 18	BOTTAS 77	OCON 31	           Albon 23	Russell 63		POS  1  2  3   4  5 6 7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18
39 P 2:02.407	39 1:49.077	39 1:52.820	39 1:53.545	39 1:52.906	39 1:51.485	39 1:51.107	39 1:45.539		LAP 39 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 77 18 10 14 47 24 22 20  6
40 1:30.957	40 1:31.475	40 1:28.838	40 1:28.221	40 1:31.146	40 1:29.428	40 1:28.654	40 1:34.790		LAP 40 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 47 14 24 22  6  20
41 1:23.771	41 1:23.282	41 1:23.686	41 1:24.110	41 1:23.241	41 1:23.540	41 1:23.366	41 1:22.369		LAP 41 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 47 14 24 22  6  20
42 1:23.618	42 1:23.213	42 1:24.056	42 1:23.951	42 1:23.397	42 1:23.231	42 1:23.238	42 1:22.460		LAP 42 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 47 14 24 22 20  6
43 1:23.881	43 1:23.012	43 1:23.759	43 1:23.934	43 1:23.792	43 1:23.120	43 1:23.245	43 1:22.068		LAP 43 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 47 14 24 22 20  6
44 1:23.530	44 1:22.685	44 1:24.208	44 1:24.263	44 1:24.113	44 1:22.928	44 1:23.071	44 1:22.231		LAP 44 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 47 14 24 22 20  6
45 1:24.146	45 1:22.685	45 1:24.487	45 1:24.422	45 1:24.205	45 1:23.225	45 1:23.962	45 1:22.122		LAP 45 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 14 47 24 20 22  6
46 1:23.834	46 1:22.979	46 1:23.820	46 1:23.883	46 1:24.004	46 1:22.869	46 1:22.964	46 1:22.095		LAP 46 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 14 47 24 20 22  6
47 1:23.811	47 1:22.598	47 1:23.828	47 1:23.602	47 1:23.914	47 1:23.083	47 1:22.936	47 1:22.479		LAP 47 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 14 47 24 20 22  6
48 1:23.691	48 1:22.697	48 1:23.399	48 1:23.592	48 1:23.400	48 1:23.126	48 1:23.029	48 1:22.337		LAP 48 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 14 47 24 20 22  6
49 1:24.618	49 1:22.442	49 1:23.590	49 1:23.747	49 1:23.615	49 1:23.020	49 1:23.025	49 1:21.887		LAP 49 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 14 47 24 20 22  6
50 1:24.950	50 1:22.459	50 1:23.762	50 1:25.150	50 1:24.620	50 1:22.936	50 1:23.127	50 1:22.157		LAP 50 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 10 18 77 14 24 20 47 22  6
51 1:25.328	51 1:22.739	51 1:23.261	51 1:24.966	51 1:22.797	51 1:22.980	51 1:22.997	51 1:21.777		LAP 51 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 10 77 18 14 24 20 47 22  6
52 1:26.950	52 1:22.581	52 1:22.731	52 1:23.995	52 1:22.685	52 1:22.876	52 1:22.706	52 1:22.044		LAP 52 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 10 77 18 24 20 14 47 22  6
53 P 1:40.863	53 1:22.435	53 1:25.619	53 1:23.786	53 1:22.539	53 1:23.210	53 1:22.594	53 1:21.495		LAP 53 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 77 10 18 24 20 47 22  6  14
54 1:32.889	54 1:22.309	54 1:23.531	54 1:23.870	54 1:21.651	54 1:22.944	54 1:22.589	54 1:21.766		LAP 54 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 77 10 18 24 20 47 22  6  14
55 1:21.322	55 1:22.248	55 1:23.182	55 1:23.801	55 1:22.361	55 1:23.170	55 1:22.758	55 1:22.315		LAP 55 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 77 10 18 24 20 47 22  6  14
56 1:30.367	56 1:23.860	56 1:23.031	56 1:24.933	56 1:21.894	56 1:23.059	56 1:22.658	56 1:21.938		LAP 56 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 77 10 24 18 47 20 22  6  14
57 1:20.846	57 1:24.970	57 1:23.302	57 1:24.295	57 1:22.201	57 1:23.102	57 P 1:38.438	57 1:22.491		LAP 57 16 11  63 44 4 3 31 77 23 10 24 18 47 20 22  6  14
58 1:24.744	58 1:23.333	58 1:24.460	58 1:22.757	58 1:22.469	58 1:27.465	58 1:21.879	58 X:XX.XXX		LAP 58 16 11  63 44 4 3 31 77 10 23 24 18       
	 
         

POS     1  2   3  4 5 6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18
LAP 39 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 77 18 10 14 47 24 22 20  6
LAP 40 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 47 14 24 22  6 20
LAP 41 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 47 14 24 22  6 20
LAP 42 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 47 14 24 22 20  6
LAP 43 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 47 14 24 22 20  6
LAP 44 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 47 14 24 22 20  6
LAP 45 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 14 47 24 20 22  6
LAP 46 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 14 47 24 20 22  6
LAP 47 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 14 47 24 20 22  6
LAP 48 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 14 47 24 20 22  6
LAP 49 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 18 10 77 14 47 24 20 22  6
LAP 50 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 10 18 77 14 24 20 47 22  6
LAP 51 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 10 77 18 14 24 20 47 22  6
LAP 52 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 10 77 18 24 20 14 47 22  6
LAP 53 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 77 10 18 24 20 47 22  6 14
LAP 54 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 77 10 18 24 20 47 22  6 14
LAP 55 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 77 10 18 24 20 47 22  6 14
LAP 56 16 11  63 44 4 3 23 31 77 10 24 18 47 20 22  6 14
LAP 57 16 11  63 44 4 3 31 77 23 10 24 18 47 20 22  6 14
LAP 58 16 11  63 44 4 3 31 77 10 23 24 18

Alonso overtook Gasly on the lap 19, finally a free track ahead of ALO. We can compare the race pace of Mercedes, McLaren and Alonso in 2-3 laps before pits, but on different tires (formally, Alonso should have been faster, but no).

RUS 1:24.661 -19 lap
RUS 1:24.728 -20 lap
RUS 1:24.669 -21 lap
RUS 1:24.665 -22 lap

HAM 1:24.408 -19
HAM 1:25.227 -20
HAM 1:24.159 -21

NOR 1:25.317 -19
NOR 1:39.107 -20
NOR 1:30.195 -21
NOR 1:25.030 -22

RIC 1:25.364 -19
RIC 1:25.734 -20

ALO 1:26.034 -19
ALO 1:24.792 -20
ALO 1:24.639 -21
ALO 1:24.626 -22

I can admit that the race pace of Alonso was higher than McLaren's, but certainly not higher than Mercedes'.
A podium would have been possible under very good circumstances(4th place in qualy and Mercedes is over a second behind by warming up its tires for a long time at the start)

[Bisonas]

Alonso overtook Gasly on the lap 19, finally a free track ahead of ALO. We can compare the race pace of Mercedes, McLaren and Alonso in 2-3 laps before pits, but on different tires (formally, Alonso should have been faster, but no).

RUS 1:24.661 -19 lap
RUS 1:24.728 -20 lap
RUS 1:24.669 -21 lap
RUS 1:24.665 -22 lap

HAM 1:24.408 -19
HAM 1:25.227 -20
HAM 1:24.159 -21

NOR 1:25.317 -19
NOR 1:39.107 -20
NOR 1:30.195 -21
NOR 1:25.030 -22

RIC 1:25.364 -19
RIC 1:25.734 -20

ALO 1:26.034 -19
ALO 1:24.792 -20
ALO 1:24.639 -21
ALO 1:24.626 -22

I can admit that the race pace of Alonso was higher than McLaren's, but certainly not higher than Mercedes'.
A podium would have been possible under very good circumstances(4th place in qualy and Mercedes is over a second behind by warming up its tires for a long time at the start)

Mercedes where on medium tires and at the end of their stint so there was not a great amount of tire management at that point. Just the final push, give it all, before the pits, while tires where obviously not at their best. So their times are not a true indication of their speed.

Alonso was on hard Tires and in the middle of his stint having to do another 20-25 laps on those tires so there was obviously a much greater amount of tire management. And if we take into account how bad the medium tires where for him, he was obviously aiming to stay out as long as possible waiting for a SC or at least VSC in order to pit or if that didn't happened, stay out as long as possible on hard tires in order to do as fewer laps as possible on the medium. So strategy wise Alonso at those laps you are mentioning wasn't pushing. He was probably following a delta, so it was not an indication of his true pace either.

IMO the comparison you made isn't showing us much.
We can't know who had the faster race pace as we didn't get the chance to find out, unfortunately.

[diffuser]

https://the-race.com/formula-1/a-1-50-p ... t-weekend/


Szafnauer said the failure that sent Alonso into the barriers was down to a part that The Race estimates probably cost about £1.50.

“It was an o-ring on an oil seal,” Szafnauer replied when asked by The Race if Alpine had identified the exact issue. “The o-ring threaded, the oil leaked out. We have a failsafe mode that tried to save the engine, so when you see a drop in oil pressure, the failsafe mode kicks in and that’s what happened. So the fix was an o-ring change.”

“Had we qualified where we could’ve qualified, it would’ve been a totally different race for Fernando,” said Szafnauer.
“He would’ve started on the mediums like everyone else around him, wouldn’t have been caught out by the safety car, would’ve had a good chance to fight with the top four guys.”

[Kamel]

According to Otmar, the Renault engine is less powerful than Ferrari (indirectly) by 10 horsepower. Is it possible to win back this gap by improving the hybrid component by September?
However Ferrari has already prepared an updated hybrid for Imola.
It’s also interesting what is left of the 140 million dollars, because there were many updates and more are planned

[Jambier]

According to Otmar, the Renault engine is less powerful than Ferrari (indirectly) by 10 horsepower. Is it possible to win back this gap by improving the hybrid component by September?
However Ferrari has already prepared an updated hybrid for Imola.
It’s also interesting what is left of the 140 million dollars, because there were many updates and more are planned

10hp compared to the best is good, but I think Ferrari is still in conservative mode for engine... let's hope Alpine too

[ferkan]

According to Otmar, the Renault engine is less powerful than Ferrari (indirectly) by 10 horsepower. Is it possible to win back this gap by improving the hybrid component by September?
However Ferrari has already prepared an updated hybrid for Imola.
It’s also interesting what is left of the 140 million dollars, because there were many updates and more are planned

10hp compared to the best is good, but I think Ferrari is still in conservative mode for engine... let's hope Alpine too

Duchessa just confirmed they intend to up the power by 10hp for PU2 if Imola reliability proves good.

[diffuser]

According to Otmar, the Renault engine is less powerful than Ferrari (indirectly) by 10 horsepower. Is it possible to win back this gap by improving the hybrid component by September?
However Ferrari has already prepared an updated hybrid for Imola.
It’s also interesting what is left of the 140 million dollars, because there were many updates and more are planned

10hp compared to the best is good, but I think Ferrari is still in conservative mode for engine... let's hope Alpine too

Duchessa just confirmed they intend to up the power by 10hp for PU2 if Imola reliability proves good.

Think you're taking that article out of context. He just threw the 10hp number out there as a number and was just trying to say that the PU is good enough to win.

Think the PU is locked down. They can't physically change anything except the CE and the MGU-K. The MGU-K has been locked down from the beginning with regards to how much power it can deliver, so only efficiency increases are available. The CE is Control Electronics.

They can make software changes.

People don't understand that 10 HP on car where everything is the same at the speed trap of a track like Jeddah Cornichie Circuit might mean a difference between 321 to 321.1 KPH. While a change of 1% of the rear wing might make 5 KPH difference. So much more time is made up by actually getting the power to the ground sooner or being able to handle higher speeds in corners that adding HP.

What's making Ferrari so strong isn't thier PU, it's that, right now, thier downforce levels are off the charts compared to anyone else.

[selvam_e2002]

10hp compared to the best is good, but I think Ferrari is still in conservative mode for engine... let's hope Alpine too

Duchessa just confirmed they intend to up the power by 10hp for PU2 if Imola reliability proves good.

Think you're taking that article out of context. He just threw the 10hp number out there as a number and was just trying to say that the PU is good enough to win.

Think the PU is locked down. They can't physically change anything except the CE and the MGU-K. The MGU-K has been locked down from the beginning with regards to how much power it can deliver, so only efficiency increases are available. The CE is Control Electronics.

They can make software changes.

People don't understand that 10 HP on car where everything is the same at the speed trap of a track like Jeddah Cornichie Circuit might mean a difference between 321 to 321.1 KPH. While a change of 1% of the rear wing might make 5 KPH difference. So much more time is made up by actually getting the power to the ground sooner or being able to handle higher speeds in corners that adding HP.

What's making Ferrari so strong isn't thier PU, it's that, right now, thier downforce levels are off the charts compared to anyone else.

well said.

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Very interesting week shaping up with Alpine allegedly bringing a major floor upgrade that they are REALLY excited about and nobody else seems to be bringing anything. Couple that with Alonso looking very close to a setup break through. Hopefully we can keep the reliability at bay.

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10hp compared to the best is good, but I think Ferrari is still in conservative mode for engine... let's hope Alpine too

Duchessa just confirmed they intend to up the power by 10hp for PU2 if Imola reliability proves good.

Think you're taking that article out of context. He just threw the 10hp number out there as a number and was just trying to say that the PU is good enough to win.

Think the PU is locked down. They can't physically change anything except the CE and the MGU-K. The MGU-K has been locked down from the beginning with regards to how much power it can deliver, so only efficiency increases are available. The CE is Control Electronics.

They can make software changes.

People don't understand that 10 HP on car where everything is the same at the speed trap of a track like Jeddah Cornichie Circuit might mean a difference between 321 to 321.1 KPH. While a change of 1% of the rear wing might make 5 KPH difference. So much more time is made up by actually getting the power to the ground sooner or being able to handle higher speeds in corners that adding HP.

What's making Ferrari so strong isn't thier PU, it's that, right now, thier downforce levels are off the charts compared to anyone else.

You think it's possible they're holding back some performance via engine modes due to the reliability concerns and once they're able to sure that up, could start running riskier power modes? Or they're already maxed out?

Intersting point about the downforce however when you see all Ferrari powered teams take a massive step in one winter, you have to suspect PU performance has a bit to do with it as well. Maybe they 'shared' some aero philosophies too.

Also, the fact that Haas and Alpha seemed more competitive on a power track like Jeddah viz a vis Australia also points to a similar direction. Miami will be a good tell.