2022 Oracle | Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[saviour stivala]

The 2021 regulations financial rules. The cost cap runs for one year (21 GP’S). An increase of one million for each extra GP. The cost for/of purchasing a supply dial for customer engine supply has been capped at euro 15 million per season. So to me it seems to mean that ‘’An engine customer that runs two cars with each car having an engine, with each car being limited to use three engines per season'', have his engine supply cost for the season of 21 GP’S capped at euro 15 million.

[saviour stivala]

The cost and use of number of engines. It has been reported that in the past three races Alonso Alpine has already used three engines. and as it is only three engines he suffers no grid penalty yet. also it does not mean that the first two engines cannot be used again.

[ringo]

Why am I getting a sense that Marko is slowly turning against Max, or more accurately he is being more neutral by not praising him as much. Is it because Max is blaming the car for pace and reliability issues and Checo is just getting on with the job?
Checo qualified within a tenth of Max in Australia, and ran a pretty decent race up to the point Max retired, but Marko is making it seem as if Max has to take responsibility for his unlucky dnf's so far.

I am closely following the narative at this team, and I do wonder if Jos has some role to play in how his son interacts with the team and the media. Now that they've locked in the mega contract, are they letting it go to their heads and then blame the car for the results so far?

[proteus]

Why am I getting a sense that Marko is slowly turning against Max, or more accurately he is being more neutral by not praising him as much. Is it because Max is blaming the car for pace and reliability issues and Checo is just getting on with the job?
Checo qualified within a tenth of Max in Australia, and ran a pretty decent race up to the point Max retired, but Marko is making it seem as if Max has to take responsibility for his unlucky dnf's so far.

I am closely following the narative at this team, and I do wonder if Jos has some role to play in how his son interacts with the team and the media. Now that they've locked in the mega contract, are they letting it go to their heads and then blame the car for the results so far?

Max became very loudly and publicly displeased about the current situation. If this escalates further and further, we might get a Prost/Ferrari situation possible to happen.

[Big Tea]

Why am I getting a sense that Marko is slowly turning against Max, or more accurately he is being more neutral by not praising him as much. Is it because Max is blaming the car for pace and reliability issues and Checo is just getting on with the job?
Checo qualified within a tenth of Max in Australia, and ran a pretty decent race up to the point Max retired, but Marko is making it seem as if Max has to take responsibility for his unlucky dnf's so far.

I am closely following the narative at this team, and I do wonder if Jos has some role to play in how his son interacts with the team and the media. Now that they've locked in the mega contract, are they letting it go to their heads and then blame the car for the results so far?

Max became very loudly and publicly displeased about the current situation. If this escalates further and further, we might get a Prost/Ferrari situation possible to happen.

There are more ways to leave a team than to have an exit clause.

[AR3-GP]

Why am I getting a sense that Marko is slowly turning against Max, or more accurately he is being more neutral by not praising him as much. Is it because Max is blaming the car for pace and reliability issues and Checo is just getting on with the job?
Checo qualified within a tenth of Max in Australia, and ran a pretty decent race up to the point Max retired, but Marko is making it seem as if Max has to take responsibility for his unlucky dnf's so far.

I am closely following the narative at this team, and I do wonder if Jos has some role to play in how his son interacts with the team and the media. Now that they've locked in the mega contract, are they letting it go to their heads and then blame the car for the results so far?

Marko has always publicly criticized Max when he see's fit. Marko says what he thinks, no filter.

Both Perez and Verstappen have commented on this and they like that about Marko.

[vorticism]

The DNF causes seem odd, although RB not known for their reliability since 2014. Or Newey generally, where people complain about his 'glass' cars.

That being said, let's shake up the thread: how do teams prevent sabotage?

[aMessageToCharlie]

Why am I getting a sense that Marko is slowly turning against Max [...]

I think everyone who has been reading your posts knows exactly why lol

[AR3-GP]

That being said, let's shake up the thread: how do teams prevent sabotage?

With good salaries...

[ringo]

The DNF causes seem odd, although RB not known for their reliability since 2014. Or Newey generally, where people complain about his 'glass' cars.

That being said, let's shake up the thread: how do teams prevent sabotage?

What did they discover with Max's car as the cause of the fire?

[vorticism]

With good salaries...

A saboteur may not be in the team though. Could be at a supplier. With the monies involved, combined with shared suppliers, there could be a financial incentive to mess with a supply chain.

How extensive are the inspections of supplier parts? How extensive are the inspections of failed supplier components?

If some thing like a fuel pump or fuel line fails (speculative) does the blame go to the supplier? The chassis engineer? The fuel chemist? The driver?

What did they discover with Max's car as the cause of the fire?

afaik we only have press accounts and comments from the team, neither of which really tell us what happened in either race

[AR3-GP]

The DNF causes seem odd, although RB not known for their reliability since 2014. Or Newey generally, where people complain about his 'glass' cars.

That being said, let's shake up the thread: how do teams prevent sabotage?

What did they discover with Max's car as the cause of the fire?

The team said it was a fuel leak. They detected a significant loss of fuel in the telemetry.

[Juzh]

https://www.planetf1.com/news/helmut-ma ... -too-much/

Seems that Perez is more confident in the car than Verstappen... Interesting

Car is slow and understeery, just the way perez likes it and opposite Verstappen's liking, bit still verstappen is clear as day much faster whenever chips are down. Once they sort it out it'll be back to usual 0.5s difference.

[ringo]

It's not a slow car by any means. Perez raced past everyone apart from Charles.
I believe if Perez was P-2 instead of Max in that race, he would have been able to pressure Leclerc.
Perez tyre saving abilities will give him an advantage over Max this year when fighting against a Ferrari that is also good at saving tyres.
Though there was a phase in the race when both redbulls started losing pace massively compared to the mercedes.
I think this is down to setup. Max and his engineers are just not getting the setup right. The balance in the car seems to be better for perez and so is the tyre wear in Perez car. For Max maybe he is setting it up to give him more front end, and this just does not work for these cars.

[toraabe]

Exactly. The high rake with the front wing almost touching the ground with a massive front end grip is gone. Now the front wing is more just for trimming. Since the downforce centre is where the tunnels are at the lowest, it is impossible to get that front end back. Now Verstappen has to prove himself how good he is without overdriving the car