2022 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix - Imola, April 22 - 24

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As was suggested above allowing the teams to change setup after qualy and so FP2 becoming a sort of warm up would add interest. It would also make sense.

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It's a gimmick. There's no good reason to devalue Qualifying session and Pole Position with Q+Sprint grid order. It would also make any cross-era stat comparisons much harder, as if having 20+ races doesn't make stats from 50s with less than 10 races look like a joke compared to last few years.

Leaving teams with lot less time to prepare for the race usually just goes to the benefit of bigger teams, who have larger simulator resources and what not.
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Vanja #66 wrote:
24 Apr 2022, 09:53
It's a gimmick. There's no good reason to devalue Qualifying session and Pole Position with Q+Sprint grid order. It would also make any cross-era stat comparisons much harder, as if having 20+ races doesn't make stats from 50s with less than 10 races look like a joke compared to last few years.

Leaving teams with lot less time to prepare for the race usually just goes to the benefit of bigger teams, who have larger simulator resources and what not.
I don’t think running a compromise setup helps anyone. If anything the better cars are already kinder on their tyres. It may disadvantage the struggling teams even more.

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Heavy rain 60 km west of #ImolaGP , according to the radar some of this is shifting ENE
and could hit the track probably before the race
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Airshifter wrote:
24 Apr 2022, 09:19
I just think it's yet another gimmick that really has no major merit. The main reason I was opposed to it is the opportunity for there to be major carnage for teams, leaving them having to rebuild the car
F2 has sprint races and it works fine. The difference is it is a partial reverse grid to make it more exciting, and then the feature grid is based on qualifying, which could be the F1 system.

F2 has the same risk of car damage in the race that pays less points.

I'm not in favour of Sprint races, if they are there they should be a longer distance for 10 points and have a partial reverse grid, but a lot of the arguments against don't bear scrutiny.

While the idea of a double race goes against the premise of awarding a Grand Prize, plenty of motor racing categories do a 2x300km format across Saturday and Sunday, and it works quite well, and very often the two races play out quite differently. I kind of prefer a progressive grid format for such a scenario, as it gives an extra bonus to finishing well on the Saturday, notwithstanding that the two races pay the same amount of points... Plus it is exciting to see those who had a disaster in the Saturday race fight back through the field on the Sunday!

Perhaps Liberty Media would like to eventually push for certain prestige races to host double headers? :?:

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23 Apr 2022, 17:58
Great track:
People complaining about Imola: wow. :shock: The track is a classic. A proper circuit with gravel traps and a unique layout that wasn't designed on computer. A favourite on racing games. It's iconic.

Actually these days even the Hungaroring is a classic track compared to the some of the newer, rubbish, circuits like Abu Dhabi!
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Ferrari might try to put Sainz on medium, as he did long run with them on FP2. Maybe the graining is lighter on these.
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Mogster wrote:
24 Apr 2022, 10:02
I don’t think running a compromise setup helps anyone. If anything the better cars are already kinder on their tyres. It may disadvantage the struggling teams even more.
Yes, exactly
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JordanMugen wrote:
24 Apr 2022, 11:38
Airshifter wrote:
24 Apr 2022, 09:19
I just think it's yet another gimmick that really has no major merit. The main reason I was opposed to it is the opportunity for there to be major carnage for teams, leaving them having to rebuild the car
F2 has sprint races and it works fine. The difference is it is a partial reverse grid to make it more exciting, and then the feature grid is based on qualifying, which could be the F1 system.

F2 has the same risk of car damage in the race that pays less points.

I'm not in favour of Sprint races, if they are there they should be a longer distance for 10 points and have a partial reverse grid, but a lot of the arguments against don't bear scrutiny.

While the idea of a double race goes against the premise of awarding a Grand Prize, plenty of motor racing categories do a 2x300km format across Saturday and Sunday, and it works quite well, and very often the two races play out quite differently. I kind of prefer a progressive grid format for such a scenario, as it gives an extra bonus to finishing well on the Saturday, notwithstanding that the two races pay the same amount of points... Plus it is exciting to see those who had a disaster in the Saturday race fight back through the field on the Sunday!

Perhaps Liberty Media would like to eventually push for certain prestige races to host double headers? :?:

Neuron wrote:
23 Apr 2022, 17:58
Great track:
People complaining about Imola: wow. :shock: The track is a classic. A proper circuit with gravel traps and a unique layout that wasn't designed on computer. A favourite on racing games. It's iconic.

Actually these days even the Hungaroring is a classic track compared to the some of the newer, rubbish, circuits like Abu Dhabi!
Agree about Imola, oozes F1 history. Imola should be on the calendar for ever imo, very high on my list of races to visit, I just love watching racing here. OK there will be SCs, but that’s going to happen with a circuit that has bumps, walls and gravel. The attendance looks incredible also, every space on the banking looks full.

F1 can’t race at Bahrain every other week, variety is needed, even venues were overtaking is difficult.

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Magicsenna_41 wrote:
23 Apr 2022, 23:52
F1Krof wrote:
23 Apr 2022, 22:17
How is it possible that only Red Bull team seem to have no porpoising at all? Did they find a trick/loophole on the suspension regulation? Is this possible?
They have something special about their suspension. Merc engineers noticed RedBull can lower the rear while driving and significantly opposite in pitlane or car standing
A device, or simply suspension movement?
A device would be very, very banned!!!
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It's raining in Imola.

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Yaaay!!

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Spoutnik wrote:
24 Apr 2022, 13:17
In fact several things. Cause for concern for Ferrari?

Front and rear wing assemblies is a weird one for Carlos. Damage from the sprint?


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Spoutnik wrote:
24 Apr 2022, 12:32
It's raining in Imola.