2022 - McLaren Formula 1 Team

[101FlyingDutchman]

RICs pace is the most baffling. He hasn’t been happy at all this race. The differential between NOR and RIC is huge

It's baffling how a driver who was almost matching Max back in 2018 can be humbled so badly by Lando in so many different occasions.

I mean, the dude was barely standing up during the driver's parade yet he manages to outpace his teammate so hard.

Either Lando is a generational talent being wasted away on the midfield. Or Daniel has been slowly using his edge over the last couple of years

Reluctantly I have to agree. I had mega expectations of RIC. I rated him as a potential future world champion but something isn’t clicking. He didn’t make that last step that the likes of RUS/VER/LEC did make. It also perhaps shows how good NOR is?!

[blastdoman]

Lando's magnificent race, Daniel's sadly one more

[CjC]

Lando is catching Ocon. I wonder...

Edit: then lost all that gained time in half a lap. Ocon pacing himself.

I thought we were in for another Jeddah but Latfi ruined that- like he’s ruined many other drivers races this season

[Mansell89]

Look.It's obvious the team hasn't optimised the upgrade package yet. I am confident once we do we will leap a significant amount in front of Alfa and Alpine and close to Mercedes.

We are a long way off Mercedes on all known evidence.

They’ve made a gigantic leap with their philosophy this weekend and I’d be amazed if we got near them this season quite frankly.

Not what I want to say, but I can’t see it any other way on all known evidence.

Be good to get a brand new PU though and at least aim for Row 4

[Darth-Piekus]

I suppose you might be right. We are still missing that new Wind Tunnel and Simulator. Can we expect the team to be able to produce cars that are championship material if that happens? After today I simply want a better driver in the place of Daniel. He has had many chances by now.

[CjC]

RICs pace is the most baffling. He hasn’t been happy at all this race. The differential between NOR and RIC is huge

It's baffling how a driver who was almost matching Max back in 2018 can be humbled so badly by Lando in so many different occasions.

I mean, the dude was barely standing up during the driver's parade yet he manages to outpace his teammate so hard.

Either Lando is a generational talent being wasted away on the midfield. Or Daniel has been slowly using his edge over the last couple of years

Reluctantly I have to agree. I had mega expectations of RIC. I rated him as a potential future world champion but something isn’t clicking. He didn’t make that last step that the likes of RUS/VER/LEC did make. It also perhaps shows how good NOR is?!

I agree with both posts.
There is no question about it now- he’s under huge pressure.
I’m resisting criticising because of Monza ‘21 BUT Lando would have picked up the win if Ric didn’t, it’s not like Ric was in another league pace wise and won by 30 seconds….

[Swed3120]

Just wondering if the Mercedes PUs are such a good idea considering the last few laps, good power gain but maybe at the cost of reliability

[CjC]

Just wondering if the Mercedes PUs are such a good idea considering the last few laps, good power gain but maybe at the cost of reliability

What other option is there?
Also 2 Ferrari DNFs today….?

[Darth-Piekus]

As much as I want to give Daniel another chance I'm afraid that train has passed. He has had too many chances and it's obvious he's no longer the Daniel we all saw in Red Bull and Renault.

[Emag]

Look.It's obvious the team hasn't optimised the upgrade package yet. I am confident once we do we will leap a significant amount in front of Alfa and Alpine and close to Mercedes.

We are a long way off Mercedes on all known evidence.

They’ve made a gigantic leap with their philosophy this weekend and I’d be amazed if we got near them this season quite frankly.

Not what I want to say, but I can’t see it any other way on all known evidence.

Be good to get a brand new PU though and at least aim for Row 4

Honestly, Lewis had the leader's pace today. Amazing drive by him.

Can't see McLaren being anywhere near that level in the short term future.

Haven't really seen any glimpses of "sunshine" from the McLaren car so far. Who knows, maybe something dials in at some point in the season.

But at the moment the defficiencies are quite substantial. Gotta set a target on Alfa (well Bottas) first before looking to the top 3.

[Swed3120]

It's baffling how a driver who was almost matching Max back in 2018 can be humbled so badly by Lando in so many different occasions.

I mean, the dude was barely standing up during the driver's parade yet he manages to outpace his teammate so hard.

Either Lando is a generational talent being wasted away on the midfield. Or Daniel has been slowly using his edge over the last couple of years

Reluctantly I have to agree. I had mega expectations of RIC. I rated him as a potential future world champion but something isn’t clicking. He didn’t make that last step that the likes of RUS/VER/LEC did make. It also perhaps shows how good NOR is?!

I agree with both posts.
There is no question about it now- he’s under huge pressure.
I’m resisting criticising because of Monza ‘21 BUT Lando would have picked up the win if Ric didn’t, it’s not like Ric was in another league pace wise and won by 30 seconds….

I think one stat shows the Inevitibility of Danny rica Situation:

Of maccas 50 points 40/50 points have come from Norris , for every 1 of Dannys points , Norris has 4

[UnaF1]

Norris is very slowly gaining on ocon and where in the mix against haas , Alfa and alpine , as far as im aware that’s where we want to be , tbf to bottas , he has driven exeptionally in the Alfa this weekend but they are far to incosistant
We need to remember that according to the Team , Norris nearly fainted this morning and therefore can’t be getting everything out of the macca

Also , 2 key factors being the car clearly likes cold conditions and Barcelona has always been a bad circuit for us

So, what exactly does it mean, that McLaren created another dog of a car? I mean, if it doesn't work around Catalunha, it won't work anywhere, right?

[SmallSoldier]

Insightful input as always. I think you're in the wrong place.

Perhaps you are the one in charge in this forum and you have to say what we forum members have or do not have to talk about

Your comment isn’t going to well received in the Mclaren thread though is it?

Mclaren developed further their 2021 car than any of the current midfield runners last season.
To see Haas and Alfa ahead at this stage of the season isn’t a big suprise to me… although it’s still frustrating

Add to it that McLaren effectively had less Wind Tunnel and CFD Time because of their position in the championship and that the facilities of the other 2 teams aren’t anything to scoff at and it’s in within the expected scenarios.

[Emag]

Norris is very slowly gaining on ocon and where in the mix against haas , Alfa and alpine , as far as im aware that’s where we want to be , tbf to bottas , he has driven exeptionally in the Alfa this weekend but they are far to incosistant
We need to remember that according to the Team , Norris nearly fainted this morning and therefore can’t be getting everything out of the macca

Also , 2 key factors being the car clearly likes cold conditions and Barcelona has always been a bad circuit for us

So, what exactly does it mean, that McLaren created another dog of a car? I mean, if it doesn't work around Catalunha, it won't work anywhere, right?

Spain was relatively weak in 2019, 2020 and 2021. On all of those years the car ended up being the best midfield car overall.

No need to throw the towel in race 5.

[Swed3120]

Norris is very slowly gaining on ocon and where in the mix against haas , Alfa and alpine , as far as im aware that’s where we want to be , tbf to bottas , he has driven exeptionally in the Alfa this weekend but they are far to incosistant
We need to remember that according to the Team , Norris nearly fainted this morning and therefore can’t be getting everything out of the macca

Also , 2 key factors being the car clearly likes cold conditions and Barcelona has always been a bad circuit for us

So, what exactly does it mean, that McLaren created another dog of a car? I mean, if it doesn't work around Catalunha, it won't work anywhere, right?

Nope not at all
Midfield doesn’t equal dog
Still have to remember we are fighting a engine manufacture and a team with a brand new wind tunnel , neither of which we have.

Also we were pretty useless around Catalonya in 2021 and 2020 and yet where pretty good elsewhere