2022 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

[Mchamilton]

200m a lap lift and coast pretty much the whole race by the sounds of it

[chrisc90]

Might explain the lack of porpoising as severe. You could still hear it at the end of the straights on the onboards like.

[PlatinumZealot]

Dayum 200m lift and coast and still fastest on track (not counting Charles)!! So definitely whole heap of potential in the car!

[chrisc90]

Dayum 200m lift and coast and still fastest on track (not counting Charles)!! So definitely whole heap of potential in the car!

Wonder if that's backed up with the telemetry regarding the lift and coast. 200m is a huge amount.

[Juzh]

Dayum 200m lift and coast and still fastest on track (not counting Charles)!! So definitely whole heap of potential in the car!

Verstappen was doing very similar lift and coast. Ok slightly less but still severe. 200m lift n coast message was very late in the race.

[PlatinumZealot]

Dayum 200m lift and coast and still fastest on track (not counting Charles)!! So definitely whole heap of potential in the car!

Wonder if that's backed up with the telemetry regarding the lift and coast. 200m is a huge amount.

Yes. it was very visible. Check one of Dialtone's charts.

[PlatinumZealot]

Dayum 200m lift and coast and still fastest on track (not counting Charles)!! So definitely whole heap of potential in the car!

Verstappen was doing very similar lift and coast. Ok slightly less but still severe. 200m lift n coast message was very late in the race.

Check the telemetry charts and you will see the huge drop off at end of straight. I pointed this out, when people were wrongly saying it was drag.



Using some rough calculations after copying the graph I estimate that HAM was losing about 7 hundredths of second during lift and coast before braking into turn 1. He lost maybe about the same or less into turn 10. And you can see two other lifts over the lap.
So It safe to say about 2 tenths were lost to lift and coast AT LEAST.

[chrisc90]

Be interesting to see how it plays out on a more normal track with 'better' weather that means the cars can be run a bit harder.

Also makes you question how well the car will do at other hot tracks if they under-estimated the cooling around the bodywork.

[JordanFiveOh]

They only underestimated for this race, since it was hotter than anticipated.

[dialtone]

Here's a better graph with more tracks:


I think it's hard to tell about merc drag ifself yeah, I think they do need bigger wings that would contribute to that drag, but the yellow background is when the car isn't in full throttle and merc speed line loses steepness earlier than that yellow line. IMHO these lines look like Ferrari in Bahrain and Jeddah.

EDIT: this is 24 laps at the start of the race excluding 1st lap and any lap with DRS.

[Mchamilton]

Dayum 200m lift and coast and still fastest on track (not counting Charles)!! So definitely whole heap of potential in the car!

Verstappen was doing very similar lift and coast. Ok slightly less but still severe. 200m lift n coast message was very late in the race.

if you class like lap 10 as late in the race then yeah.
it was before george and verstappen were battling

[PlatinumZealot]

I get about 2 tenths lost to lift and coast over the lap compared to RedBull*

[Big Tea]

They only underestimated for this race, since it was hotter than anticipated.

Also remember they have to set the cooling requirements before Park ferme now

[Juzh]

Dayum 200m lift and coast and still fastest on track (not counting Charles)!! So definitely whole heap of potential in the car!

Verstappen was doing very similar lift and coast. Ok slightly less but still severe. 200m lift n coast message was very late in the race.

if you class like lap 10 as late in the race then yeah.
it was before george and verstappen were battling

It was on lap 24 and if you check out verstappen's onboard he was doing L&C at around 150m. My point is everyone was tight on cooling apart from maybe ferrari (i havent checked but we've not heard anything from them on that front). It was a conscious decision by mercedes to take cooling off the car and do some lift and coast, it wasn't something that just suddenly appeared out of thin air.

[SuperCNJ]

Dayum 200m lift and coast and still fastest on track (not counting Charles)!! So definitely whole heap of potential in the car!

Verstappen was doing very similar lift and coast. Ok slightly less but still severe. 200m lift n coast message was very late in the race.

Check the telemetry charts and you will see the huge drop off at end of straight. I pointed this out, when people were wrongly saying it was drag.

https://i.imgur.com/V6G5zsH.png

Using some rough calculations after copying the graph I estimate that HAM was losing about 7 hundredths of second during lift and coast before braking into turn 1. He lost maybe about the same or less into turn 10. And you can see two other lifts over the lap.
So It safe to say about 2 tenths were lost to lift and coast AT LEAST.

And Hamilton seems to have the highest minimum speeds in nearly all the corners or at least on par with Perez but faster than Sainz. Not sure if he was using more of the tyres in the corners to compensate for the deficit from lift and coasting but still very encouraging.