2022 Monaco Grand Prix - Monte Carlo, May 27 - 29

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chrisc90 wrote:Chances of Ferrari being able to battle with Red Bull pit stop strategy? Since the pits are a big one here, RB have typically been the faster team. Of course it all depends on how much of a gap the leader manages to pull on opening laps in clear air.

Lets hope for some rain mid race which will spice it up a bit.
Ferrari has had a total of 3 bad stops but has the fastest ones. RBR is more consistent with them. I wouldn’t be worried.


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Sevach wrote:
27 May 2022, 22:25
I don't think Perez will challenge, if they get Verstappen's car to his liking i believe(so no data) he may be in sniffing range to capitalize on any mistake.
can't really see why he shouldn't, tbh. With those new cars, he is much stronger in qualifying than before, and Monaco has always been a good track for him, right from the early days of his career (although often with an unlucky outcome back then)
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Sevach wrote:
27 May 2022, 22:25
SirBastianVettel wrote:
27 May 2022, 22:19
dialtone wrote:
27 May 2022, 21:46
I wouldn’t rule out that RBR will find pace for quali in fp3. I do think they were in lower engine mode and naybe had not great setup. I don’t know if that will fix the time enough, engine not being so important here for example, but i would bet they will be closer than this.
Is this based on telemetry or your gut feeling? Because I don’t see Red Bull making up the one-lap deficit to Ferrari, especially not here in Monaco. They’ve been behind on one-lap pace for a while now. And Ferrari will have Giovinazzi on an adrenaline drip all night in the simulator.
I don't think Perez will challenge, if they get Verstappen's car to his liking i believe(so no data) he may be in sniffing range to capitalize on any mistake.

Charles is the favorite no doubt.
Verstappen is a bit overated in qualy, his strong point is race pace. I feel Perez is in the mood, somehow. He can put everything together like in Jeddah. I think one of the leader will crash in FP3, the other one in Q3 :oops:

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Spoutnik wrote:
27 May 2022, 21:24
PlatinumZealot wrote:
27 May 2022, 21:18
Two drivers from the top four will bin it in qualifying. Mark my words.
VER and LEC :mrgreen:
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Chuckjr wrote:
28 May 2022, 02:08
Spoutnik wrote:
27 May 2022, 21:24
PlatinumZealot wrote:
27 May 2022, 21:18
Two drivers from the top four will bin it in qualifying. Mark my words.
VER and LEC :mrgreen:
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Can't believe Sainz will do another mistake this weekend when it count...

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dialtone wrote:
27 May 2022, 22:25
SirBastianVettel wrote:
dialtone wrote:
27 May 2022, 21:46
I wouldn’t rule out that RBR will find pace for quali in fp3. I do think they were in lower engine mode and naybe had not great setup. I don’t know if that will fix the time enough, engine not being so important here for example, but i would bet they will be closer than this.
Is this based on telemetry or your gut feeling? Because I don’t see Red Bull making up the one-lap deficit to Ferrari, especially not here in Monaco. They’ve been behind on one-lap pace for a while now. And Ferrari will have Giovinazzi on an adrenaline drip all night in the simulator.
The setup is gut feeling, the engine is a bit of telemetry, they weren’t so deficient in acceleration in past races, so either the engine is fine but setup is very wrong or a mix or engine very low and setup fine.

It’s possible I’m looking too much into it and they are just weaker, but 0.5s behind is an eternity, I would be shocked.
Your gut feeling is correct. Marko said after FP2 that they went the wrong way with setup on Max's car.

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dialtone wrote:
27 May 2022, 22:47
chrisc90 wrote:Chances of Ferrari being able to battle with Red Bull pit stop strategy? Since the pits are a big one here, RB have typically been the faster team. Of course it all depends on how much of a gap the leader manages to pull on opening laps in clear air.

Lets hope for some rain mid race which will spice it up a bit.
Ferrari has had a total of 3 bad stops but has the fastest ones. RBR is more consistent with them. I wouldn’t be worried.


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PlatinumZealot wrote:
27 May 2022, 21:18
Two drivers from the top four will bin it in qualifying. Mark my words.
That honestly, would be worth a bet on.

I wonder if the odds would be better if it was a Red Car... Ferrari needs the 1,2 this weekend and at this point (barring Red Bull having anything in reserve power/setup wise) anything less than that would be disappointing.

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Spoutnik wrote:
28 May 2022, 07:27
Chuckjr wrote:
28 May 2022, 02:08
Spoutnik wrote:
27 May 2022, 21:24


VER and LEC :mrgreen:
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Can't believe Sainz will do another mistake this weekend when it count...
Honestly I hope I’m wrong. I like the guy. I want both Ferrari drivers to do well and really take control of the championship by driving near perfect and using the advantages of the car. Now is his opportunity.
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Pole time will only be less than 2 seconds slower than last year’s pole time. I don’t think some of us would have expected this.
Or is there any other difference I’m missing?

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LM10 wrote:
28 May 2022, 10:10
Pole time will only be less than 2 seconds slower than last year’s pole time. I don’t think some of us would have expected this.
Or is there any other difference I’m missing?
I'm really surprised how quick these cars are around this track. I thought with the extra weight, low profile tires, ground-effect aero and budget cap (so less Monaco specific upgrades) they would be a lot slower.

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Each time when new F1 rules says that new cars will be much slower all team's engineers says "hold my beer" ;)

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New spec front wing for the Mercs.

Both still look very unsettled, especially through the swimming pool.

Ferrari and RB trading times, Ferrari look very well hooked up again.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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Spoutnik wrote:
27 May 2022, 23:11
Sevach wrote:
27 May 2022, 22:25
SirBastianVettel wrote:
27 May 2022, 22:19


Is this based on telemetry or your gut feeling? Because I don’t see Red Bull making up the one-lap deficit to Ferrari, especially not here in Monaco. They’ve been behind on one-lap pace for a while now. And Ferrari will have Giovinazzi on an adrenaline drip all night in the simulator.
I don't think Perez will challenge, if they get Verstappen's car to his liking i believe(so no data) he may be in sniffing range to capitalize on any mistake.

Charles is the favorite no doubt.
Verstappen is a bit overated in qualy, his strong point is race pace. I feel Perez is in the mood, somehow. He can put everything together like in Jeddah.
Sound like I'm right..
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So it seems Red Bull have found some pace and/or turned up the engine… Ferrari has a fight on its hands here.

Should be a close fight for qualifying for pole… and for that matter, a massively tight battle for 5th as best of the rest!

Seems the Alfa Romeo bet of a surprise result pace wise hasn’t materialised.