2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[GrizzleBoy]

Sainz exited pitlane side by side with Latifi. And that clown was racing him and then he was shown blue flags... what a guy

Probably that cost him position

Hold on, you're telling me Latifi's terrible driving essentially won Red Bull another race??

This freaking guy.......

Yep

https://streamja.com/k2JLR

Unbelievable...........he ignored blue flags for what, half the lap??? Why no penalty for that?

I really can't stand Latifi at this point.

[Andi76]

Hold on, you're telling me Latifi's terrible driving essentially won Red Bull another race??

This freaking guy.......

Yep

https://streamja.com/k2JLR

Unbelievable...........he ignored blue flags for what, half the lap??? Why no penalty for that?

I really can't stand Latifi at this point.

I agree, there should be a penalty for that. But anyway - even as mistakes can happen, Ferrari needs to step up their game regarding race-strategy. They clearly lack someone who is able "to read" a race ever since the master himself, Ross Brawn, left the team. I think they have fastest car, but they are far behind in terms race strategy. Because of that they loose races they should have won and do not win races they should not win(whats often essential in a close fight for the title). If they continue like that, they will definetely loose this battle with Red Bull. In my opinion they need to strengthen their race-strategy-departement immediately.

[Spoutnik]

[tpe]

So, Ferrari for one more time blow up during critical weekends. They manage to see things THAT NO ONE else see.
They ignore the no 1 rule in Monaco (position is king), the manage to loose a sure 1-2 and destroy the physiology of their best driver.
They need to get their act together NOW, I don't know how.

I mean, at the end of the day, go and train them in e-sports F1, I don't care, just make them more efficient.

The other thing that frustrates me, is Ferraris sporting director. How on earth you are you not screaming to the stewards about the lapped cars. The rule is very, very clear. 5 corners, not 6, not 7 and certainly not the whole lap

[chrisc90]

Gotta love ferrari, it’s always everyone else’s fault

What a joke, maybe focus on your own strategy --- up before trying to rob off Red Bull for a rule that had already been clarified , what a absolut Clown Team , blame everyone, but themselves. (While running around with illegal engines for 2 years and then shoving it under the carpet)

New rule for F1 , until Ferrari and the FIA actually release whatever --- they did with the engines , Ferrari is barred from lodging any protests with the FIA

I did lose a bit of respect for Ferrari lodging that protest. Your team screwed up, royally, twice and then try to pull the plug on the winning teams celebrations for something soo petty. You can tell they are feeling the pressure from Redbull and we only 7 GPs into the season so barely a 1/3. If thats the way they wanting to go down trying to disrupt race victories from other teams, they best be sure not to put a single tyre wrong as you can bet your bottom dollar other teams will be doing the same to catch them out from now on.

Its almost like its lowered the tone a bit for what is a great season battle so far.

[LM10]

Gotta love ferrari, it’s always everyone else’s fault

What a joke, maybe focus on your own strategy --- up before trying to rob off Red Bull for a rule that had already been clarified , what a absolut Clown Team , blame everyone, but themselves. (While running around with illegal engines for 2 years and then shoving it under the carpet)

New rule for F1 , until Ferrari and the FIA actually release whatever --- they did with the engines , Ferrari is barred from lodging any protests with the FIA

I did lose a bit of respect for Ferrari lodging that protest. Your team screwed up, royally, twice and then try to pull the plug on the winning teams celebrations for something soo petty. You can tell they are feeling the pressure from Redbull and we only 7 GPs into the season so barely a 1/3. If thats the way they wanting to go down trying to disrupt race victories from other teams, they best be sure not to put a single tyre wrong as you can bet your bottom dollar other teams will be doing the same to catch them out from now on.

Its almost like its lowered the tone a bit for what is a great season battle so far.

Every team protests every minuscule thing when it’s as close as it is and when they’re fighting for the championship. Remember last year RBR vs Mercedes or many other examples in the past.

No one cares about what you two think in regards of Ferrari or the protest anyway.
You’re free to lose as much respect as you wish.

[Spoutnik]

i personally think Ferrari are no match to RB on strategy front.
agreed RB have multiple options because of Perez but still other things like Pit stops, etc are so avg by Ferrari almost 3 to 3.5 seconds. Also In certain situations RB always goes for the kill always ready to take extra risk while Ferrari stay more traditional , more passive - responsive type.

What a non sense... When did RB this season go for "the kill" while Ferrari didn't? some of your arguments are ridiculous.

He might think about pitting under SC in Miami for Perez, or going for the undercut and doing an extra stop in Barhein for Verstappen.
Last season they were going for the kill too, Abu Dhabi or even Jeddah are prime example of their "extra risk" strategy (underfueling Perez's car, pitting every time under SC or VSC, putting Verstappen on the softer tyres to keep track position at the restart after the red flag even if it's costly on race pace hoping for another SC...).

Regarding the debate on Sainz the last 2 pages I think you have to remember Perez had a dreadful start of season in 2021.. but was a very valuable asset at the end of the season

We have to come back to this discussion we had few pages ago before this race...
Ferrari is making RB strategy team look like world beater

[NL_Fer]

Saintz totally made the right decision to question the choice for inters. But I guess it screwed the teams strategy. Normally it is the 2nd driver to try the agressive approach and to keep the leading driver in position with a more conservative strategy. But now Saintz wanted to stay out and they took a long time to decide to try the inters on Charles.

[chrisc90]

Gotta love ferrari, it’s always everyone else’s fault

What a joke, maybe focus on your own strategy --- up before trying to rob off Red Bull for a rule that had already been clarified , what a absolut Clown Team , blame everyone, but themselves. (While running around with illegal engines for 2 years and then shoving it under the carpet)

New rule for F1 , until Ferrari and the FIA actually release whatever --- they did with the engines , Ferrari is barred from lodging any protests with the FIA

I did lose a bit of respect for Ferrari lodging that protest. Your team screwed up, royally, twice and then try to pull the plug on the winning teams celebrations for something soo petty. You can tell they are feeling the pressure from Redbull and we only 7 GPs into the season so barely a 1/3. If thats the way they wanting to go down trying to disrupt race victories from other teams, they best be sure not to put a single tyre wrong as you can bet your bottom dollar other teams will be doing the same to catch them out from now on.

Its almost like its lowered the tone a bit for what is a great season battle so far.

Every team protests every minuscule thing when it’s as close as it is and when they’re fighting for the championship. Remember last year RBR vs Mercedes or many other examples in the past.

No one cares about what you two think in regards of Ferrari or the protest anyway.
You’re free to lose as much respect as you wish.

What other protests have there been recently of a race result aside from Merc last year and Ferrari this one?

If you dont care about my opinion, or the other guys opinion...nobody really cares what you think either....however, ill find time to read our comments that are constructive to a discussion...unlike the last sentence which borderline trolling.

[Drift4794]

I did lose a bit of respect for Ferrari lodging that protest. Your team screwed up, royally, twice and then try to pull the plug on the winning teams celebrations for something soo petty. You can tell they are feeling the pressure from Redbull and we only 7 GPs into the season so barely a 1/3. If thats the way they wanting to go down trying to disrupt race victories from other teams, they best be sure not to put a single tyre wrong as you can bet your bottom dollar other teams will be doing the same to catch them out from now on.

Its almost like its lowered the tone a bit for what is a great season battle so far.

Every team protests every minuscule thing when it’s as close as it is and when they’re fighting for the championship. Remember last year RBR vs Mercedes or many other examples in the past.

No one cares about what you two think in regards of Ferrari or the protest anyway.
You’re free to lose as much respect as you wish.

What other protests have there been recently of a race result aside from Merc last year and Ferrari this one?

If you dont care about my opinion, or the other guys opinion...nobody really cares what you think either....however, ill find time to read our comments that are constructive to a discussion...unlike the last sentence which borderline trolling.

You're looking for reasons to be angry about in a cut-throat sport. Cut it out. Every team is petty and will take any advantage they get. It's almost like some of you started watching the sport yesterday.

[chrisc90]

Every team protests every minuscule thing when it’s as close as it is and when they’re fighting for the championship. Remember last year RBR vs Mercedes or many other examples in the past.

No one cares about what you two think in regards of Ferrari or the protest anyway.
You’re free to lose as much respect as you wish.

What other protests have there been recently of a race result aside from Merc last year and Ferrari this one?

If you dont care about my opinion, or the other guys opinion...nobody really cares what you think either....however, ill find time to read our comments that are constructive to a discussion...unlike the last sentence which borderline trolling.
[P/quote]

You're looking for reasons to be angry about in a cut-throat sport. Cut it out. Every team is petty and will take any advantage they get. It's almost like some of you started watching the sport yesterday.

Not angry at all. Far from.

[LM10]

I did lose a bit of respect for Ferrari lodging that protest. Your team screwed up, royally, twice and then try to pull the plug on the winning teams celebrations for something soo petty. You can tell they are feeling the pressure from Redbull and we only 7 GPs into the season so barely a 1/3. If thats the way they wanting to go down trying to disrupt race victories from other teams, they best be sure not to put a single tyre wrong as you can bet your bottom dollar other teams will be doing the same to catch them out from now on.

Its almost like its lowered the tone a bit for what is a great season battle so far.

Every team protests every minuscule thing when it’s as close as it is and when they’re fighting for the championship. Remember last year RBR vs Mercedes or many other examples in the past.

No one cares about what you two think in regards of Ferrari or the protest anyway.
You’re free to lose as much respect as you wish.

What other protests have there been recently of a race result aside from Merc last year and Ferrari this one?

If you dont care about my opinion, or the other guys opinion...nobody really cares what you think either....however, ill find time to read our comments that are constructive to a discussion...unlike the last sentence which borderline trolling.

Did you lose respect for Mercedes too when they protested last season? When do you decide whether it’s okay to protest or not?

[chrisc90]

Every team protests every minuscule thing when it’s as close as it is and when they’re fighting for the championship. Remember last year RBR vs Mercedes or many other examples in the past.

No one cares about what you two think in regards of Ferrari or the protest anyway.
You’re free to lose as much respect as you wish.

What other protests have there been recently of a race result aside from Merc last year and Ferrari this one?

If you dont care about my opinion, or the other guys opinion...nobody really cares what you think either....however, ill find time to read our comments that are constructive to a discussion...unlike the last sentence which borderline trolling.

Did you lose respect for Mercedes too when they protested last season? When do you decide whether it’s okay to protest or not?

Mercedes brought a great fight to the table, sadly some of the bitterness from their team ruined it a little bit. (although it is great to watch Toto angry). Just another race result celebration delayed for the RB team having to jump through a boardroom to decide the result

Guess its how the rules are written. I think they should only be able to decisions by the stewards, or make them aware of things through the race only that the RD might have missed. Once the race is over, case closed. Pointless having a 48hr, 10 or 28 day limit (whatever it is for an appeal to be lodged) where a team can dispute a race result.

However, this takes away from the Ferrari team discussion and probably more suited to the FIA thread.

[Drift4794]

What other protests have there been recently of a race result aside from Merc last year and Ferrari this one?

If you dont care about my opinion, or the other guys opinion...nobody really cares what you think either....however, ill find time to read our comments that are constructive to a discussion...unlike the last sentence which borderline trolling.
[P/quote]

You're looking for reasons to be angry about in a cut-throat sport. Cut it out. Every team is petty and will take any advantage they get. It's almost like some of you started watching the sport yesterday.

Not angry at all. Far from.

Okay, you were disappointed. My point still stands. Bit naive to expect teams to act honorably in F1 of all sports. No team ever has when it comes to winning and no team ever will. Least of all from the team you support. Cut out the pearl-clutching.

[JPower]

Obviously a disappointing result but still a long season to go.

At this point last year, Max had a 12 point lead over Lewis, and RB was 37 ahead of Mercedes. By Silverstone that lead was 32 and 44 respectively. The tides can change very quickly.