2022 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, June 10 - 12

[Juzh]

lec p1 lap in fp2
https://streamable.com/0ljrvz

[Big Tea]

I am sure George would not be complaining publicly if he was leading, however it does not make it bleating for the sake of it.
There are many instances of people being permanently injured due to giving the spine treatment like this, most of which was not labelled up correctly until permanent damage was done.
I'm sure if he was given the choice of suck it up and win or continue as you are he would take the win option, but that would not help others.

[JPower]

Immature statement and entitled. Really disappointing

What exactly is immature about his statement? He's getting beaten up in the car and is suffering. He's not the only one, Sainz and other drivers said the same. I think it's fair to question if F1 has gotten this wrong, and at least raise the quesiton if something can be done about the current situation. That is in addition to Mercedes needing to get their act together.

I think both Russel and Hamilton have been tremendously professional and not throwing the towel in the ring.

Is any of those other drivers Max or Charles?

Charles complained today that the bottoming out is negatively effecting car performance in his opinion.

[bluechris]

Just raise the car if you get porpoising and stiffen the suspension. They have at least 3 more years to fix their problems.
I don't see one single reason to bring active suspension in the cars.
Also after 2014 with the Mercedes with their rocket engine from start, i didn't see anyone wanting to change the engines. All the other teams just tried to fix their engines and they did it after many years.

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[JPower]

I don't think you need active suspension, but the suspensions from last year seemed much more compliant(obviously some of that is due to the tires as well) and probably can handle a wider variety of dynamics than the current simplified version.

[chrisc90]

Theres absolutely nothing wrong with the regs the way they are. Some teams have the problem figured out and have quick cars. I think its absolutely wrong and childish to be complaining about the rules because certain teams havent figured out the resolution to the issue. Surely they have some world class aero designers/engineers who can overcome this problem at Mercedes?

I wonder if George would share the same view if he was leading the WDC...

[Big Tea]

Just raise the car if you get porpoising and stiffen the suspension. They have at least 3 more years to fix their problems.
I don't see one single reason to bring active suspension in the cars.
Also after 2014 with the Mercedes with their rocket engine from start, i didn't see anyone wanting to change the engines. All the other teams just tried to fix their engines and they did it after many years.

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I doubt active suspension would be allowed, but if there is enough call for it, a rule change for next year would seem wise. Possibly even a tyre redesign

[TNTHead]

I think what would make life of the drivers better if they could switch off the porpoising. RB shows that to some degree this can be done. So there is an engineering task to be done.

Other issues are weight and slow direction changes. Many drivers already mentioned this.

As for Russell, his and Hamiltons situation is not enviable: they need a very stiff suspension to extract performance.

I dont think Russell is whining, but may be it is premature, the new cars are only a few month going. Much to improve I would say.

[PlatinumZealot]

I agree with George. The drivers will get life-long injuries if this continues. They can look at testing better suspension for 2023 or change the nature of the floor.

[Hammerfist]

I couldn’t agree less. An active suspension arms race is the last thing we need. The big teams would be way in the lead. Red Bull has porpoising figured out and everyone else will too. Active suspension will just produce super planted boring cars.

Redbull havent figured out squat. They just happen to bounce less than the others but they still have it. ive heard checo and horner complain about it as well. If watching bouncing broncos go around tge track is what you think is exciting then have at it but it is getting annoying for some of us to watch what is supposed to be the pinnacle of motorsport look so embarrassingly unsettled just going in a straight line.

If dtm never figured out porpoising for years its naive to think f1 will without active suspensions.

[chrisc90]

Did the cars bounce back in the 70's when GE first come about?

[siskue2005]

Also after 2014 with the Mercedes with their rocket engine from start, i didn't see anyone wanting to change the engines.

Really? just search in google horner engine f1 2014.
https://www.eurosport.com/formula-1/hor ... tory.shtml
There are multiple comments from horner and co.

There was engine freeze in 2014, however from pressure from ferrari and redbull they did unfreeze the engine in 2014 season.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/ferra ... 58/5048158/

There are multiple rule changes and bans and back tracking engine freeze in 2014.

All the other teams (in 2014) just tried to fix their engines and they did it after many years.

Wow! that's just a laughable comment

[Gillian]

Did the cars bounce back in the 70's when GE first come about?

Yes.

[siskue2005]

Did the cars bounce back in the 70's when GE first come about?

Yes.

Not to this extent

[silver]

I agree with George. The drivers will get life-long injuries if this continues. They can look at testing better suspension for 2023 or change the nature of the floor.

Russell should build better fitness than complain. There are so many other series like rallying where the physical stress is so huge, but drivers just do the job instead of asking to fix the tracks. Most teams have it under control and Mercedes/Ferrari should fix it too. I don't see a need to change the rules to bring any further complexity in suspensions.