2022 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, June 10 - 12

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How was the pace FER vs RB on long runs?

S2 seems solid with low DF wing. I hope they won't eat the tyres tomorrow.


Sainz...... choking again.. eh

[f1jcw]

Mercedes over a second away, despite their massive upgrades in Spain! Well, if it was not for George, then we could said, 1.5 seconds away. George is wiping the floor with Lewis. He even bailed Lewis out of Q2.

So, George towing Lewis in Q2 is bailing him out
But Lewis towing George in Q3 is nothing.

You people make me laugh.

[Fulcrum]

Sigh. Sainz is always the nearly man. A front row was almost guaranteed!

He's driving with the pressure of someone fighting for a championship, yet he hasn't won a race yet.

I don't think he's worked out Leclerc is simply in a different place mentally, considering the poles and wins he's already achieved. When Sainz tries to 'match' Leclerc, he ends up over-driving the car, making mistakes, or binning it.

It would be better to dial it back a bit and focus on scoring podiums as often as possible.

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Guess you didnt watch Miami? Could a Ferrari with DRS pass the RB with no DRS?

You crack me up man .

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Read what YOU wrote about lap 49 and answer the question. With a faster car, by up to 15kmh as YOU said, could Charles pass Verstappen? (charles having had DRS)

You're boring man... Why would I go check miami when this is a totally different track? FP3 AND quali showed minimal top speed difference without tow.

With DRS and tow any car would be faster than one without, but you are straight up refusing to look at data on this track.

Miami is not rear limited and Ferrari had serious tyre deg issues that hurt their traction out of t16. I don't even know where to begin with you so I just won't.

Enjoy.

[f1jcw]

Redbull and Mercedes have a similar alternating strategy for leading Qualifying, Max will give Checo a tow in Canada.

Do you have a team source for that?*

It certainly didn't seem to be the case in Monaco, where Verstappen got the prime slot with the most rubbered in track. Frankly, I don't understand why teams bother with this rotational nonsense. Give your fastest driver the best position, unless there are intrinsic and clear benefits to the WCC.

*Preferably not Helmut Marko.

Merc did it to be equal strategy amongst the drivers.
I’ll be interest to know if redbulls go in sequence

As for giving your fastest driver the benefits, I thought that was frowned upon?

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Redbull and Mercedes have a similar alternating strategy for leading Qualifying, Max will give Checo a tow in Canada.

Do you have a team source for that?*

It certainly didn't seem to be the case in Monaco, where Verstappen got the prime slot with the most rubbered in track. Frankly, I don't understand why teams bother with this rotational nonsense. Give your fastest driver the best position, unless there are intrinsic and clear benefits to the WCC.

*Preferably not Helmut Marko.

Merc did it to be equal strategy amongst the drivers.
I’ll be interest to know if redbulls go in sequence

As for giving your fastest driver the benefits, I thought that was frowned upon?

Mercedes actually alternated "free choice" (and probably still does?), and not "first out". Bottas (idiotically) once took "first out" in Monza for example, because he preferred clean air

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Is it fair to say the RB currently have the slightly faster car? It just seems LEC is a different animal when it comes to qualifying. Tyre deg and straight line speed will give RB a slight edge at this circuit. Ferrari will need to nail the strategy in this race to come out on top. This is a great opportunity for them to make up for their past glitches.

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Anyone with driver tracker info on Q3 runs pls. Who got a tow from who?

For Merc George towed Lewis into Q3, Lewis towed George on his final Q3 run it seemed.

Do you have info for GAS? Btw. HAM was behind TSU I believe.

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Is it fair to say the RB currently have the slightly faster car? It just seems LEC is a different animal when it comes to qualifying. Tyre deg and straight line speed will give RB a slight edge at this circuit. Ferrari will need to nail the strategy in this race to come out on top. This is a great opportunity for them to make up for their past glitches.

It's possible RB has better tyre deg, but there's no clear indication of it from race sims, it's possible though. Speed advantage though isn't a thing and hasn't been a thing since Imola.

[Wouter]

Great
I expect Perez to let Verstappen by at T1 which should mean a spicy battle between the two WDC contenders,

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What happened to let them fight for it especially as Perez is a contender, he has already given over 1 win.

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Well redbull is basically max and his dad's team... I guess their fans also know it.. there will be some convoluted strategy tomorrow for Perez,
especially after last race when Papa Verstappen was not happy

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“I think dads and fathers are never totally objective,” Horner told Sky Sports F1 after the first practice session of the Azerbaijan Grand Prix. “I don’t know what you’re like as a racing dad [referring to Sky pundit Damon Hill] but what wasn’t apparent to obviously Jos, was all the information that we have during a race.

“Of course if we had of pitted him, he would have come out behind I think George at the time.”

Horner was then asked about if Max knew what his father had written but the 48-year-old said it was “absolutely fine” Jos had his own opinions.

“I think Jos is his own person isn’t he?” Horner said. “It’s his own personality. So he’s obviously you know, got opinions. I think and that’s absolutely fine. That his opinion, the reality for us was obviously slightly different. So it’s no issue.”

Horner also insisted that the team do not have a number one driver and they would give the best strategy to the driver in the lead.

“The number one driver is the driver that’s ahead, it’s as simple as that,” the Red Bull boss said. “That’s why Checo got the call on on the pitstop, Max wouldn’t even have track position for example, with that on that lap.

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As for giving your fastest driver the benefits, I thought that was frowned upon?

Only by people who believe in Sky F1 fairytales*?

Why wouldn't your team try to get the best result? It's not like Verstappen and Leclerc are driving cars designed and built by them and carry out their own pitstops and strategy calculations. It's a team sport.

Sure Mercedes tried it (and, arguably, so did McL during the Hamilton/Alonso debacle). But would last season have been another double World Championship if Bottas had been a contractual number 2? Would either Alonso or Hamilton have another WDC if Ron had actually put the team first? Indulging two employees having a personal competition at the cost of team performance is pretty inexcusable.

*The other people who complain tend to have an agenda. Just scroll back to the last time Valteri 'The Poodle' Bottas pulled over for Hamilton and see if those same people were complaining just as vociferously when Checo 'The Legend' Perez got it much worse in Barcelona. I imagine it's a night and day difference between the two lists of names. Plus ca change...

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Is it fair to say the RB currently have the slightly faster car? It just seems LEC is a different animal when it comes to qualifying. Tyre deg and straight line speed will give RB a slight edge at this circuit. Ferrari will need to nail the strategy in this race to come out on top. This is a great opportunity for them to make up for their past glitches.

It's possible RB has better tyre deg, but there's no clear indication of it from race sims, it's possible though. Speed advantage though isn't a thing and hasn't been a thing since Imola.

that was my impression as well. Long runs weren't really long enough for much of an indication, and Ferrari looked comfortably able to do several hot laps with the soft tyre (even more than Red Bull) on Friday, so I wouldn't really expect too much degredation problems.

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Is it fair to say the RB currently have the slightly faster car? It just seems LEC is a different animal when it comes to qualifying. Tyre deg and straight line speed will give RB a slight edge at this circuit. Ferrari will need to nail the strategy in this race to come out on top. This is a great opportunity for them to make up for their past glitches.

It's possible RB has better tyre deg, but there's no clear indication of it from race sims, it's possible though. Speed advantage though isn't a thing and hasn't been a thing since Imola.

that was my impression as well. Long runs weren't really long enough for much of an indication, and Ferrari looked comfortably able to do several hot laps with the soft tyre (even more than Red Bull) on Friday, so I wouldn't really expect too much degredation problems.

Indeed, they went through q2 with a used set of softs from q1 and were setting better times than RedBull on new softs. Leclerc also sounded confident in the post race interview about the race tomorrow.

These 2 cars are so close it's hard to say who's going to win tomorrow. Pitstops and strategy are more consistent for RB so there's that variable for them.

[Zynerji]

Sigh. Sainz is always the nearly man. A front row was almost guaranteed!

He's driving with the pressure of someone fighting for a championship, yet he hasn't won a race yet.

I don't think he's worked out Leclerc is simply in a different place mentally, considering the poles and wins he's already achieved. When Sainz tries to 'match' Leclerc, he ends up over-driving the car, making mistakes, or binning it.

It would be better to dial it back a bit and focus on scoring podiums as often as possible.

Sainz is to LeClerc as Prost is to Senna

One is a bit more carefree with their attitude towards crashing.

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Do you think it was possible for Sainz to do as extra lap, at lesst to try an see if he could improve a bit, or his tyres were completely gone?