2022 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, June 10 - 12

[Spoutnik]

Do you think it was possible for Sainz to do as extra lap, at lesst to try an see if he could improve a bit, or his tyres were completely gone?

Apparently the tyres were gone. But I think he couldn't recharge the battery too.
I think tomorrow it's in RB's hands. The Ferrari might be a sitting duck on the straight, and deg more the rear tyres if we refer to Sainz' statement.

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Here's the telemetry for quali from PER and LEC, neither had tow so this is true value of the car with DRS.

* The speed difference at the end of the straight to finish line is a menacing 2kmh.
* In S2 Leclerc braking made the difference, as I predicted, braking performance of the Ferrari is almost more impressive than traction, practically every corner it's later braking.
* Speed difference on start of lap still there, I suspect Ferrari doesn't want to use MGU-H deployment too much on launch lap and that's why they're short on the finish line.

Regarding the race tomorrow... As I mentioned before, hard to know however:

LEC Q1 + Q2 laps:
LAP 1 S/1 Stint 1: NaT
LAP 2 S/2 Stint 1: 1:43.225
LAP 3 S/3 Stint 1: 2:20.032
LAP 4 S/4 Stint 1: 1:42.865
LAP 5 S/5 Stint 1: 2:14.211
LAP 6 S/6 Stint 1: 2:10.771
LAP 7 S/1 Stint 2: NaT
LAP 8 S/9 Stint 2: NaT
LAP 9 S/10 Stint 2: 1:42.182
LAP 10 S/11 Stint 2: 2:20.672
LAP 11 S/12 Stint 2: 2:16.259
LAP 12 S/13 Stint 2: 1:42.046

all on the same tyre, I highly doubt that a car that can take these used softs to Q2 and put down a lap like that, < 0.1s slower than what PER put in on 6 lap old softs (below) has high tyre deg issues.

PER
LAP 1 S/1 Stint 1: NaT
LAP 2 S/2 Stint 1: 1:43.198
LAP 3 S/3 Stint 1: 2:22.028
LAP 4 S/4 Stint 1: 2:3.145
LAP 5 S/5 Stint 1: 1:42.733
LAP 6 S/1 Stint 2: 2:9.595
LAP 7 S/2 Stint 2: NaT
LAP 8 S/3 Stint 2: 1:42.258
LAP 9 S/4 Stint 2: 2:14.849
LAP 10 S/5 Stint 2: 2:8.862
LAP 11 S/6 Stint 2: 1:41.955

Going back to Verstappen who received a tow on finish line:



The tow was worth about 0.2s and 8kmh on top of DRS, he's not too confident in braking though, not as much as Perez, this came through also in FP3.



Same deal for LEC v SAI, same car this time but confidence under braking has been SAI weak spot since the start of the season, I think this lap is better than what I've seen in the past though, and he also went through Q1 and Q2 on the same softs.

Will be a close race tomorrow, strategy will win it, hopefully no mistakes from Ferrari.

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It's possible RB has better tyre deg, but there's no clear indication of it from race sims, it's possible though. Speed advantage though isn't a thing and hasn't been a thing since Imola.

that was my impression as well. Long runs weren't really long enough for much of an indication, and Ferrari looked comfortably able to do several hot laps with the soft tyre (even more than Red Bull) on Friday, so I wouldn't really expect too much degredation problems.

Indeed, they went through q2 with a used set of softs from q1 and were setting better times than RedBull on new softs. Leclerc also sounded confident in the post race interview about the race tomorrow.

These 2 cars are so close it's hard to say who's going to win tomorrow. Pitstops and strategy are more consistent for RB so there's that variable for them.

that was actually a mistake on the timing, by the look of it. It's now changed to new softs in the tyre history tab at least

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that was my impression as well. Long runs weren't really long enough for much of an indication, and Ferrari looked comfortably able to do several hot laps with the soft tyre (even more than Red Bull) on Friday, so I wouldn't really expect too much degredation problems.

Indeed, they went through q2 with a used set of softs from q1 and were setting better times than RedBull on new softs. Leclerc also sounded confident in the post race interview about the race tomorrow.

These 2 cars are so close it's hard to say who's going to win tomorrow. Pitstops and strategy are more consistent for RB so there's that variable for them.

that was actually a mistake on the timing, by the look of it. It's now changed to new softs in the tyre history tab at least

I just downloaded the telemetry and it's still that way, I'll re download again later.

Edit: if someone wants to check the onboards on f1tv, that would be easy to verify.

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I just downloaded the telemetry and it's still that way, I'll re download again later.

Edit: if someone wants to check the onboards on f1tv, that would be easy to verify.

okay, this is what the browser version shows now. During live coverage it had used ones as well

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I just downloaded the telemetry and it's still that way, I'll re download again later.

Edit: if someone wants to check the onboards on f1tv, that would be easy to verify.

okay, this is what the browser version shows now. During live coverage it had used ones as well

The sainz and leclerc disagreement is weird but possible I suppose.

[nico5]

Do you think it was possible for Sainz to do as extra lap, at lesst to try an see if he could improve a bit, or his tyres were completely gone?

Apparently the tyres were gone. But I think he couldn't recharge the battery too.
I think tomorrow it's in RB's hands. The Ferrari might be a sitting duck on the straight, and deg more the rear tyres if we refer to Sainz' statement.

Yeah sure he finished the tyres at turn two...
Just not enough fuel for two laps probably

[nico5]

I just downloaded the telemetry and it's still that way, I'll re download again later.

Edit: if someone wants to check the onboards on f1tv, that would be easy to verify.

okay, this is what the browser version shows now. During live coverage it had used ones as well

https://i.imgur.com/XJ8tad2.png

The sainz and leclerc disagreement is weird but possible I suppose.

Both had new shiny tyres in Q2 from onboards

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2021 pole lap 1:41:218
2022 pole lap 1:41:359

[chrisc90]

Is there any speed trap data (start of straight and finish line) from qualifying?

[Wouter]

Is there any speed trap data (start of straight and finish line) from qualifying?

[abcdefgh]

Yeah, just seen the clip off Sky where hes held up the 2 Mclarens...who went out. Thats definitely a penalty IMHO. Ill be shocked if its only a reprimand

I am curious how he held up two McLaren drivers? He was driving slowly looking for toe and he did not block any of them. It was theirs decision to stay behind. They had free choice to overtake but preferred not to.

[chrisc90]

Is there any speed trap data (start of straight and finish line) from qualifying?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FU_IRaoWYAA ... name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FU_IQ-pXwAA ... name=large

Legend. Thankyou.

Out of interest, Where do you grab those from? Never seen them on the FIA docs site.

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Yeah, just seen the clip off Sky where hes held up the 2 Mclarens...who went out. Thats definitely a penalty IMHO. Ill be shocked if its only a reprimand

I am curious how he held up two McLaren drivers? He was driving slowly looking for toe and he did not block any of them. It was theirs decision to stay behind. They had free choice to overtake but preferred not to.

there was a yellow flag, I think?! And potentially caused by Hamilton going this slowly?

[abcdefgh]

Yeah, just seen the clip off Sky where hes held up the 2 Mclarens...who went out. Thats definitely a penalty IMHO. Ill be shocked if its only a reprimand

I am curious how he held up two McLaren drivers? He was driving slowly looking for toe and he did not block any of them. It was theirs decision to stay behind. They had free choice to overtake but preferred not to.

there was a yellow flag, I think?! And potentially caused by Hamilton going this slowly?

Yellow flags were displayed at the next marshal post. And is slowing down under yellow not a good thing? As long as he drives to delta - which he did - he did nothing wrong I guess?