2022 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, June 10 - 12

[chrisc90]

I overslept and missed the race (I live in California)...

Was Verstappen likely to catch Leclerc if his engine didn't let go?

Early VSC made most the grid who started on Meds pit early for Hards. Both RB stayed out. max was faster than perez race pace. Charles did get ahead after the RBs pitted, but I think the tyre differential would have cost him overall. But given the later VSC caused by MAG, then could have played into his hands pretty well.

[GrizzleBoy]

RIC in the interview after the race seems pretty beat up saying the bouncing is terrible and he is quite sore. I don't think he is acting

Typical Diva Daniel Ricciardo, always complaing about something that one.

Drop the act Daniel!

Am I doing it right?

If I may answer this from my perspective: I can’t recall hearing Daniel complaining about F1/FIA/whatever. Lewis on the other hand I can’t recall him not complaining. That together with his past of pinpointing stuff that need to be changed which suited him or Mercedes the best makes me at least questioning if this is theatre or real.

I also really want to make clear that I think that Lewis is the best or one of the best F1 drivers ever to have entered the sport. But his mindgames/political games really put a stain on that title for me

People are trying to make out that this is simply a merc and Lewis/George issue when commentators have confirmed that team. Bosses say every driver except one is concerned and believes something should be done.

Including Ricciardo who came out to say he finally experienced the porpoising on a similar level to others and felt physically shaken by the experience of a whole GPS worth of it.

We now have actual figures stating the drivers are experiencing upto 6G of repeated instantaneous vertical loads.

You can literally see it happening. You can hear it.

The fastest car on the grid over one lap has it the worst at times and their drivers are also complaining.

If you're still trying to tell yourself it's just a "Lewis" thing then I don't know what to tell you.

[darkpino]

Where all of you were when we were forced to watch for 6 years in a row one team with insanely better engine humililating all the others?
F1 was and still is the same - we had Ferrari era, RBR era, Mercedes era end now again RBR era crossed with Ferrari. Nothing new.

This, 100% agree
I’d opt for an IndyCar formula right away but as long as we’re not there yet I don’t see any reason to help Mercedes now

[darkpino]

Typical Diva Daniel Ricciardo, always complaing about something that one.

Drop the act Daniel!

Am I doing it right?

If I may answer this from my perspective: I can’t recall hearing Daniel complaining about F1/FIA/whatever. Lewis on the other hand I can’t recall him not complaining. That together with his past of pinpointing stuff that need to be changed which suited him or Mercedes the best makes me at least questioning if this is theatre or real.

I also really want to make clear that I think that Lewis is the best or one of the best F1 drivers ever to have entered the sport. But his mindgames/political games really put a stain on that title for me

People are trying to make out that this is simply a merc and Lewis/George issue when commentators have confirmed that team. Bosses say every driver except one is concerned and believes something should be done.

Including Ricciardo who came out to say he finally experienced the porpoising on a similar level to others and felt physically shaken by the experience of a whole GPS worth of it.

We now have actual figures stating the drivers are experiencing upto 6G of repeated instantaneous vertical loads.

You can literally see it happening. You can hear it.

The fastest car on the grid over one lap has it the worst at times and their drivers are also complaining.

If you're still trying to tell yourself it's just a "Lewis" thing then I don't know what to tell you.

Nope not thining it’s a Lewis thing. But the theatre of stumbling out of the car to get something done is in my opinion a Lewis thing and something I dislike

[Neuron]

The issue is that we heard that Merc dominance has to stop. But it was only... to be replaced by Red Bull. It's useless for everyone especially because there will never be any rivalry between Verstappen and Perez, lets be honest.

F1 has to make the field closer (2010, 2012..) to make these technical regulation works.

Excatly same cars is the only way. But F1 was never about that.

[epo]

Typical Diva Daniel Ricciardo, always complaing about something that one.

Drop the act Daniel!

Am I doing it right?

If I may answer this from my perspective: I can’t recall hearing Daniel complaining about F1/FIA/whatever. Lewis on the other hand I can’t recall him not complaining. That together with his past of pinpointing stuff that need to be changed which suited him or Mercedes the best makes me at least questioning if this is theatre or real.

I also really want to make clear that I think that Lewis is the best or one of the best F1 drivers ever to have entered the sport. But his mindgames/political games really put a stain on that title for me

People are trying to make out that this is simply a merc and Lewis/George issue when commentators have confirmed that team. Bosses say every driver except one is concerned and believes something should be done.

Including Ricciardo who came out to say he finally experienced the porpoising on a similar level to others and felt physically shaken by the experience of a whole GPS worth of it.

We now have actual figures stating the drivers are experiencing upto 6G of repeated instantaneous vertical loads.

You can literally see it happening. You can hear it.

The fastest car on the grid over one lap has it the worst at times and their drivers are also complaining.

If you're still trying to tell yourself it's just a "Lewis" thing then I don't know what to tell you.

But did you also listen to what Lando Norris had to say about it? Mercedes can put their car higher and it will have less Porpoising, something what Mclaren or at least Norris his car choose for.

[DChemTech]

Where all of you were when we were forced to watch for 6 years in a row one team with insanely better engine humililating all the others?
F1 was nad still is the same - we had Ferrari era, RBR era, Mercedes era end now again RBR era crossed with Ferrari. Nothing new.

The issue is that we heard that Merc dominance has to stop. But it was only... to be replaced by Red Bull. It's useless for everyone especially because there will never be any rivalry between Verstappen and Perez, lets be honest.

F1 has to make the field closer (2010, 2012..) to make these technical regulation works.

Ferrari is in the mix just fine - RB is not the sole dominant team.
Behind that, there is gap, sure. But also there, compared to the Merc domination years, not excessive - and it's the first year of the new ruleset. Plenty of opportunity for things to converge...

[Bill]

Before the season began some people said it was max champ to lose .i thought those people were smoking pipe given ferrari advantage during test .they still have perfomance but are making it too easy for Rbr

[GrizzleBoy]

If I may answer this from my perspective: I can’t recall hearing Daniel complaining about F1/FIA/whatever. Lewis on the other hand I can’t recall him not complaining. That together with his past of pinpointing stuff that need to be changed which suited him or Mercedes the best makes me at least questioning if this is theatre or real.

I also really want to make clear that I think that Lewis is the best or one of the best F1 drivers ever to have entered the sport. But his mindgames/political games really put a stain on that title for me

People are trying to make out that this is simply a merc and Lewis/George issue when commentators have confirmed that team. Bosses say every driver except one is concerned and believes something should be done.

Including Ricciardo who came out to say he finally experienced the porpoising on a similar level to others and felt physically shaken by the experience of a whole GPS worth of it.

We now have actual figures stating the drivers are experiencing upto 6G of repeated instantaneous vertical loads.

You can literally see it happening. You can hear it.

The fastest car on the grid over one lap has it the worst at times and their drivers are also complaining.

If you're still trying to tell yourself it's just a "Lewis" thing then I don't know what to tell you.

Nope not thining it’s a Lewis thing. But the theatre of stumbling out of the car to get something done is in my opinion a Lewis thing and something I dislike

What theatre? He said his back was hurting from a repeated action that puts a measured value of upto instantaneous 6G into his spine while driving a car that suffers from it the worst.

What's to be upset about?

[Spoutnik]

The issue is that we heard that Merc dominance has to stop. But it was only... to be replaced by Red Bull. It's useless for everyone especially because there will never be any rivalry between Verstappen and Perez, lets be honest.

F1 has to make the field closer (2010, 2012..) to make these technical regulation works.

Excatly same cars is the only way. But F1 was never about that.

Not really. You just have to make sur the rules are stable and there's no technical part making one car OP (DAS...).
In 2012 we had a great championship. 2010 too.
We have Vettel in top form, Alonso still very good, Hamilton and the young guns. It's very frustrating to not see the field closer. The field might never have been so competitive, lets enjoy it.

[Henri]

These cars are trash can't overtake and the slipstream is weaker than the older cars...

[Spoutnik]

Where all of you were when we were forced to watch for 6 years in a row one team with insanely better engine humililating all the others?
F1 was nad still is the same - we had Ferrari era, RBR era, Mercedes era end now again RBR era crossed with Ferrari. Nothing new.

The issue is that we heard that Merc dominance has to stop. But it was only... to be replaced by Red Bull. It's useless for everyone especially because there will never be any rivalry between Verstappen and Perez, lets be honest.

F1 has to make the field closer (2010, 2012..) to make these technical regulation works.

Ferrari is in the mix just fine - RB is not the sole dominant team.
Behind that, there is gap, sure. But also there, compared to the Merc domination years, not excessive - and it's the first year of the new ruleset. Plenty of opportunity for things to converge...

Ferrari is not really in the mix they will not win the championship even if Leclerc is mighty on qualy and put some dominant performance like in Spain. It's less closer to me than in 2018 against Merc.

It can converge, but if there's only one team who really solved porpoising this advantage might last like the PU advantage of Merc from 2014.
I will add that the new regulation in 2025 will not help surely as they are to soon to allow a real convergence.

[Mezger]

Has any interview with Toto questioned if raising the ride height, etc would reduce the bouncing ? There has to be some pay off for making the car drivable over a race distance.
If a solution has to be found then all teams will need to be consulted and a majority vote agreed upon.
If Lewis has a genuine problem causing the kind of behavior that makes him unable to exit the car then he should make his concerns priority with the team. If experimental parts are to blame they should be removed immediately before the Canadian GP. If that causes loss of performance then so be it, what is more important ?
Perhaps the Baku track has exagerated the problems with bumps at high speed.
Hoping we get less problems in Montreal through improved development and set up.

[Mogster]

If a solution has to be found then all teams will need to be consulted and a majority vote agreed upon.

Wouldn’t they all have to agree? I thought the votes weren’t majority based.

Would Ferrari have their veto?

[Neuron]

Not really. You just have to make sur the rules are stable and there's no technical part making one car OP (DAS...).
In 2012 we had a great championship. 2010 too.
We have Vettel in top form, Alonso still very good, Hamilton and the young guns. It's very frustrating to not see the field closer. The field might never have been so competitive, lets enjoy it.

Every each team has known rules for 2022. They had a lot of time to prepare, some of them postopne 2021 season to be well prepared for 2022. And some still have problems. Is it problem with rules or with teams? If you don't have enough talented engineers - you lose, simple.