Who's to say that the porpoising isn't having an impact on their reliability though?
Who's to say that the porpoising isn't having an impact on their reliability though?
It could well be. It could well have been the same reason that the Red bulls had double DNF at the start of the season too. However they worked round the problem.adrianjordan wrote: ↑12 Jun 2022, 18:32Who's to say that the porpoising isn't having an impact on their reliability though?
This seems like a PERFECT use of the GPDA and it's members to force some changes. Even if it's a self policed limit on vertical gForce over time.chrisc90 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2022, 19:11Adding onto this....
I believe the cars should be fitted with a vertical G meter, which is monitored throughout free practice. Now I do think there should be a set level which would have to be agreed with on the teams. If they are exceeding the limit, they should have to raise the car to reduce it. However, it would get very difficult to 'police' in qualifying and the race where cars generally run a lot faster (at least in qualifying). So whilst it would be good to have a limit, to protect the drivers, it would be very hard to enforce during the time that matters.
Why not? For one I think the referees should have taken Hamilton out of the race, when he was complaining about his back. The same with boxing, when the stakes are this high you have to protect the athletes from permanently damaging themselves even if they want to continue.chrisc90 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2022, 19:11Adding onto this....
I believe the cars should be fitted with a vertical G meter, which is monitored throughout free practice. Now I do think there should be a set level which would have to be agreed with on the teams. If they are exceeding the limit, they should have to raise the car to reduce it. However, it would get very difficult to 'police' in qualifying and the race where cars generally run a lot faster (at least in qualifying). So whilst it would be good to have a limit, to protect the drivers, it would be very hard to enforce during the time that matters.
A 'safety issue' that can be resolved within existing regulations. So yeah, no need to change the rules, except for perhaps adding something that porpoising may not exist (some threshold) for safety concerns.f1jcw wrote: ↑12 Jun 2022, 19:27When Merc was able to utilise party modes better then everyone else, it was removed
When they could do das it was removed
When they could do fric better then everyone else it was removing it
We now have a safety issue, but strangely people want the rules to come up with one that will protect a single team rather then solve a problem.
So, when Merc had fric, party modes, DAS, why did the FIA solve the issue, why didn’t the other constructors solve the problems?notsofast wrote: ↑12 Jun 2022, 19:50FIA should not solve problems. Constructors should solve problems. That's why we have a constructors championship.
To protect the drivers, FIA could implement a rule, like, drivers may not be subject to more than X g vertical acceleration on average during a race. Let the constructors figure out to accomplish that.
As above, Engine Modes, why wasn’t those able to use allowed to, why did they have to be banned to the lowest common denominatorNeuron wrote: ↑12 Jun 2022, 19:53If all - literally all teams would have such problem then of course it should be taken on consideration to change something.
But.. for the love of god - if some teams can handle it it means that it is possible. Some teams did better job than others - it's F1's gene...
Other things were banned in season, why not now. Why the hypocrisy from everyone.DChemTech wrote: ↑12 Jun 2022, 19:38A 'safety issue' that can be resolved within existing regulations. So yeah, no need to change the rules, except for perhaps adding something that porpoising may not exist (some threshold) for safety concerns.f1jcw wrote: ↑12 Jun 2022, 19:27When Merc was able to utilise party modes better then everyone else, it was removed
When they could do das it was removed
When they could do fric better then everyone else it was removing it
We now have a safety issue, but strangely people want the rules to come up with one that will protect a single team rather then solve a problem.
DAS was not banned during the season by the way; I see no issue with changing regulations between seasons. During the season, like for party modes or wing thresholds, is another matter - strongly against that. If a team manages to get most out of the regulations, they should be commended, not penalized.
I don't remember FIA'a statement on it. Was it legal or not? They forbidden something legal to use without any reason?f1jcw wrote: ↑12 Jun 2022, 19:56As above, Engine Modes, why wasn’t those able to use allowed to, why did they have to be banned to the lowest common denominatorNeuron wrote: ↑12 Jun 2022, 19:53If all - literally all teams would have such problem then of course it should be taken on consideration to change something.
But.. for the love of god - if some teams can handle it it means that it is possible. Some teams did better job than others - it's F1's gene...