Opinion on 2022 regulations

[DChemTech]

As said, was not a fan of those other things being banned mid-season either.

But one can't change the past. So why not start doing it better from now on, rather than do the same unwanted thing again simply because mistakes were made in the past?

[graham.reeds]

Having a G-sensor would make that decision less arbitrary.

Don't all cars have IMU's?

[notsofast]

In the past, FIA was motivated to ban costly items because the poorer teams could bankrupt themselves trying to invent the same things. We now have a better solution: the budget cap. It remains to be seen whether it is enforceable, but I sure hope that FIA now stays away from banning cool inventions like DAS.

[chrisc90]

It could actually play against Mercedes this complaining. As said, the FIA could quite easily impose a limit on drivers (quite rightly) and Mercedes would have to fall in line with that limit. Which would mean they have to run the car higher, or find a better solution.

Whilst campaigning for active suspensions or other methods to combat the porpoising, it could well give them a slap in the face.

[adrianjordan]

Be funny if they do implement a "no more than X vertical gs" rule and then one team is like 6 seconds a lap quicker because they figure it out first. Still stand by my opinion that we should have had active suspension this season too as it would have been far cheaper for teams to run.

Agreed. Plus, cost caps would mean teams would self police their spending pinnacle of motorsports and yet they're limited to basic suspension.

[Dr. Acula]

FIA should not solve problems. Constructors should solve problems. That's why we have a constructors championship.

To protect the drivers, FIA could implement a rule, like, drivers may not be subject to more than X g vertical acceleration on average during a race. Let the constructors figure out to accomplish that.

So, when Merc had fric, party modes, DAS, why did the FIA solve the issue, why didn’t the other constructors solve the problems?

FRIC would have probably bankrupt smaller teams.
Party modes, well in my opinion weren't a problem, but i can understand why some customer teams wouldn't be very happy about it. Basically if you choose the wrong engine supplier you were screwed and could nothing do against it.
DAS used a grey area in the technical regulation and in my opinion should never have been allowed in the first place.

[f1jcw]

FIA should not solve problems. Constructors should solve problems. That's why we have a constructors championship.

To protect the drivers, FIA could implement a rule, like, drivers may not be subject to more than X g vertical acceleration on average during a race. Let the constructors figure out to accomplish that.

So, when Merc had fric, party modes, DAS, why did the FIA solve the issue, why didn’t the other constructors solve the problems?

FRIC would have probably bankrupt smaller teams.
Party modes, well in my opinion weren't a problem, but i can understand why some customer teams wouldn't be very happy about it. Basically if you choose the wrong engine supplier you were screwed and could nothing do against it.
DAS used a grey area in the technical regulation and in my opinion should never have been allowed in the first place.

That is still hypocritical, being okay fia resolving competing issues in some cases but not in others, especially when this isn’t performance but health and safety.

[Dr. Acula]

So, when Merc had fric, party modes, DAS, why did the FIA solve the issue, why didn’t the other constructors solve the problems?

FRIC would have probably bankrupt smaller teams.
Party modes, well in my opinion weren't a problem, but i can understand why some customer teams wouldn't be very happy about it. Basically if you choose the wrong engine supplier you were screwed and could nothing do against it.
DAS used a grey area in the technical regulation and in my opinion should never have been allowed in the first place.

That is still hypocritical, being okay fia resolving competing issues in some cases but not in others, especially when this isn’t performance but health and safety.

Well, it's quite a difference if there's a problem which some teams simply can't solve by them self or if there's a problem where there is a solution that doesn't even cost anything, but the teams just don't like to apply it.

[west52keep64]

So after 8 races it's probably fair to have a view on if the regulations have suceeded? My take is I don't think they've been the revelation everyone was hoping.

Is overtaking significantly easier? No. The cars can follow closer, but ultimately the different performance levels and characteristics of the cars still limit overtaking.

Has it brought the field closer together? No. The battle at the front was close at the start of the season, but it seems to have massively swung towards Red Bull, to the point where I'd say they are easily going to walk the championship from here.

[torpor]

F1 used to be the pinnacle of motorsports. Now it became the strange series where the cars are hopping like funny rabbits. It‘s totally embarrassing.

I like that the cars can follow each other better and all that. But for what price?

No one wants to see a contest in which driver can endure more pain.

[chrisc90]

So after 8 races it's probably fair to have a view on if the regulations have suceeded? My take is I don't think they've been the revelation everyone was hoping.

Is overtaking significantly easier? No. The cars can follow closer, but ultimately the different performance levels and characteristics of the cars still limit overtaking.

Has it brought the field closer together? No. The battle at the front was close at the start of the season, but it seems to have massively swung towards Red Bull, to the point where I'd say they are easily going to walk the championship from here.

I think a fair comparison would be 8 races into the last change of regulations.. 2014??

If your comparing it to last year, once a lot of the teams had come up with very similar then it’s a bit of a bad comparison to make.

Will 2025 8 races in have them same result as 2022 8 races in? I doubt it.

[Spacepace]

I'd be all for active suspension and dampers of any sort for next year but it would be unfair for teams that have got it right this year even though they are running away with it. Azerbaijan and Singapore are probably going to be the worst this season. I think the cars look horrid around Azerbaijan and I would welcome a performance increase for every team next year. Sure poirpoising was an issue with cars in the eighties but they also ran more compliant suspension and tall side walls. These are the stiffest cars I've ever seen. They look horrible

[Big Tea]

Do you think maybe one or more of the teams that have sorted the problem may see it as the lesser of two evils to let some hints slip to the others about overcoming the issue rather than (unfairly in my view) having the 'cure' imposed on everyone?

[adrianjordan]

So after 8 races it's probably fair to have a view on if the regulations have suceeded? My take is I don't think they've been the revelation everyone was hoping.

Is overtaking significantly easier? No. The cars can follow closer, but ultimately the different performance levels and characteristics of the cars still limit overtaking.

Has it brought the field closer together? No. The battle at the front was close at the start of the season, but it seems to have massively swung towards Red Bull, to the point where I'd say they are easily going to walk the championship from here.

I think it is more likely next year where we will see the true success or otherwise of these regulations as the limitations on developments have more of an impact.

[mzivtins]

I think in large, the regulation changes were good, for me it was the change to 18inch wheels that was utterly stupid and moronic.

Trying to follow road car mentality in motor racing is stupid, people want pathetic 20inch wheels on the road, so should f1 keep making wheels bigger to fit with a moronic trend?

I dont know enough to say that going back to 13inch wheels would be better, but could it solve some of the bouncing issues?