2022 Canadian Grand Prix - Montreal, June 17 - 19

[Alonsismo]

He isn’t in any way a bad driver in the rain (nor do I think that’s what he said), but I can also see why someone would say it’s not his strongest attribute.

He’s had some good wet wins - like Malaysia 2012 - and was strong a few times in the wet in 2006 (eg also in China that year - let down by his team and also a great drive from Michael) but equally there aren’t that many standout wet races to pick from given his years in the sport. Probably easier to think of more big wet races for Max already (not to mention the likes of Lewis, Michael, Ayrton etc).

Anyway, he did awesome today and hopefully he’ll have a great start and have a strong race.

Alonso had to drive a lot of --- cars, its not the same driving a good car in wet conditions than driving bad car like those mchonda or R29.

[chrisc90]

Looking forward to seeing what Checo and Charles are going to do from out of position. I reckon both will make up places relative to each other so I really cant see Perez not having a chance at a podium today. Charles I reckon will get up to 5th or 6th.

Alpine are going to have to be on point with their strategy today against red bull.

Hoping Haas have a solid race given they can probably use strategy against Merc.


Does anyone know how the dry runs looked race pace wise from FP1/2? Given we have a mixed up grid it could be VERY interesting.

[Big Tea]

I see this as a tactical race by both RBR and Ferrari. Unless Max is leading after the first corner, I think they will just let Alonso go and run their own game.
The slower the leaders run the sooner the 'late starters' will catch up and both would like good points.
I also see (in my crystal ball) the safety and VSC playing a big part. (But I don't trust mu ball enough to put money on it. )

[Wouter]

[Juzh]

Even if alonso jumps max off the line he's not staying ahead for more than 5 laps. Verstappen is in a different league on this track so far, so he'll munch him up in no time. Perez is completely off the pace and will only be useful to hold up leclerc for some laps before he's overtaken.

Verstappen pole (telemetry + audio sync)
https://streamable.com/x5350h

[djones]

To me it looked like a few people went for a higher downforce setup and that worked well in a wet qualifying.

George, Alonso and Haas stood out for that. You could visibly see the bigger wing on George's car compared to Lewis for example.

Max will run away with an easy win. But the above should make it a fun race to watch as people like Alonso are out of position really.

1. Max (by a mega margin)
2. Hamilton
3. Ocon

Is my wild guess - working purely on the basis these are setup for the race compared to the people around them.

Oh and Sianz DNF.

[Mchamilton]

Keep in mind Ringo also thinks the turd pods on the Merc are a good idea so I wouldn’t put much weight on his opinion. Calling Fred a bad rain driver also is a sign he has no idea what he’s saying.

Equipment plays an important role in wet, unless the driver is extra ordinary like Ayrton and Michael have proven. Fernando, Seb and Lewis are in second category. Max is definitely vying for the first one and only time will tell if he firmly joins that group or the second one. Then there are average wet drivers like Massa, Bottas and Ric. I said these names because they had the equipment, but failed consistently. It appears George has great talent in wet. Since last year Lewis hasn't done anything notable in wet, which highlights the quality of equipment he had in previous years.

Lewis hasnt done anything notable in the wet? Are you actually serious? Yet max is vying for the top catagory lol what a joke those 2 statements are

[Mansell89]

I know people keep thinking Alonso was on a high DF setup but I’m sure he kept pumping in fastest S3 times throughout quali so I just think the new rear wing upgrade has helped their top speed and the sidepods must be aiding the downforce to keep the overall lap time.

He’s been up there in all conditions all weekend so he ought to fight for P3 all being well.

[chrisc90]

Keep in mind Ringo also thinks the turd pods on the Merc are a good idea so I wouldn’t put much weight on his opinion. Calling Fred a bad rain driver also is a sign he has no idea what he’s saying.

Equipment plays an important role in wet, unless the driver is extra ordinary like Ayrton and Michael have proven. Fernando, Seb and Lewis are in second category. Max is definitely vying for the first one and only time will tell if he firmly joins that group or the second one. Then there are average wet drivers like Massa, Bottas and Ric. I said these names because they had the equipment, but failed consistently. It appears George has great talent in wet. Since last year Lewis hasn't done anything notable in wet, which highlights the quality of equipment he had in previous years.

Lewis hasnt done anything notable in the wet? Are you actually serious? Yet max is vying for the top catagory lol what a joke those 2 statements are

I mean he hasn’t though? To say he classes it as one of his favourites, what has he done in the wet the last 2 seasons?

[darkpino]

Keep in mind Ringo also thinks the turd pods on the Merc are a good idea so I wouldn’t put much weight on his opinion. Calling Fred a bad rain driver also is a sign he has no idea what he’s saying.

Equipment plays an important role in wet, unless the driver is extra ordinary like Ayrton and Michael have proven. Fernando, Seb and Lewis are in second category. Max is definitely vying for the first one and only time will tell if he firmly joins that group or the second one.

Sure he is….

Strange how equipment matters, unless you are Max.

About time we start saying "Anyone could be a WDC in that Redbull"

It seems that this season (at least till now) that’s true. Last season it was clear that only Max or Lewis would become WDC in their respective cars as their team mates weren’t even near the level which was set by both Lewis and Max.

It also seems that SF really dropped the ball with reliability. Without the DNF’s the world would have been a lot different now

[Big Tea]

I know people keep thinking Alonso was on a high DF setup but I’m sure he kept pumping in fastest S3 times throughout quali so I just think the new rear wing upgrade has helped their top speed and the sidepods must be aiding the downforce to keep the overall lap time.

He’s been up there in all conditions all weekend so he ought to fight for P3 all being well.

I think Alonso's laps were more due to Alonso than the car or set up.

[darkpino]

I know people keep thinking Alonso was on a high DF setup but I’m sure he kept pumping in fastest S3 times throughout quali so I just think the new rear wing upgrade has helped their top speed and the sidepods must be aiding the downforce to keep the overall lap time.

He’s been up there in all conditions all weekend so he ought to fight for P3 all being well.

I think Alonso's laps were more due to Alonso than the car or set up.

Fully agree

[darkpino]

Equipment plays an important role in wet, unless the driver is extra ordinary like Ayrton and Michael have proven. Fernando, Seb and Lewis are in second category. Max is definitely vying for the first one and only time will tell if he firmly joins that group or the second one. Then there are average wet drivers like Massa, Bottas and Ric. I said these names because they had the equipment, but failed consistently. It appears George has great talent in wet. Since last year Lewis hasn't done anything notable in wet, which highlights the quality of equipment he had in previous years.

Lewis hasnt done anything notable in the wet? Are you actually serious? Yet max is vying for the top catagory lol what a joke those 2 statements are

I mean he hasn’t though? To say he classes it as one of his favourites, what has he done in the wet the last 2 seasons?

Turkey last season? For example?

[Ryar]

Keep in mind Ringo also thinks the turd pods on the Merc are a good idea so I wouldn’t put much weight on his opinion. Calling Fred a bad rain driver also is a sign he has no idea what he’s saying.

Equipment plays an important role in wet, unless the driver is extra ordinary like Ayrton and Michael have proven. Fernando, Seb and Lewis are in second category. Max is definitely vying for the first one and only time will tell if he firmly joins that group or the second one. Then there are average wet drivers like Massa, Bottas and Ric. I said these names because they had the equipment, but failed consistently. It appears George has great talent in wet. Since last year Lewis hasn't done anything notable in wet, which highlights the quality of equipment he had in previous years.

Lewis hasnt done anything notable in the wet? Are you actually serious? Yet max is vying for the top catagory lol what a joke those 2 statements are

He did, got outqualified by a Williams in a wet Spa last year.

[Gillian]

I know people keep thinking Alonso was on a high DF setup but I’m sure he kept pumping in fastest S3 times throughout quali so I just think the new rear wing upgrade has helped their top speed and the sidepods must be aiding the downforce to keep the overall lap time.

He’s been up there in all conditions all weekend so he ought to fight for P3 all being well.

I think Alonso's laps were more due to Alonso than the car or set up.

Fully agree

Yup. Anyone that claims Alonso was driving a "wet setup" car should go check back the laps he did.

Verstappen will be faster in the race no matter the conditions, but a podium for Alonso on merit seems likely considering the FP runs.