2022 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 01 - 03

[chrisc90]

Wonder if the nose stud of Hamilton has been surgically removed before the start of this weekend.

Or whether FIA going to give another grace

[chrisc90]

So the Red Bull / Max Mates have all forgotten Barcelona and the fact the Red Bull and AT almost failed to get out of the garages in time because their fuel was illegally cold.

Yeah, thought so.

Were the cars running a legal temperature when they left the pitlane?

If they were, you can’t complain can you.

You don’t realise how stupid it sounds when you mention it’s only benefitting one team, look how many people have called you out on it.

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So the Red Bull / Max Mates have all forgotten Barcelona and the fact the Red Bull and AT almost failed to get out of the garages in time because their fuel was illegally cold.

Yeah, thought so.

I think what others have an issue with is that from this rule change you have zeroed in on Red Bull gaining an advantage. I will explain:

It's demonstrable that Mercedes' PU is also having trouble with fuel temperatures this season, as shown by the AMR pitlane start and Mercedes adding insulation material around their fuel tank (akin to Red Bull).

Furthermore, it goes deeper than a simple mid-season rule change: in the first 5 races of the season, the fuel temperature was required to be at a fixed value - this is a new system introduced for the beginning of 2022. However, Ferrari vetoed this new procedure after Miami because they realized Mercedes and Honda were experiencing fuel temperature issues whilst they themselves didn't.

So you can see that the "rule change" was designed to be in place from the beginning of the season, was actually in place for the first 5 races, and only reverted because Ferrari preferred the old rules which gave them an advantage.

Now FIA has probably come to an agreement with Ferrari such that they will not use their Veto that at particularly hot races it will be allowed to cool to 20, and they are returning to the initially implemented procedure, but with a compromise that the old procedure is to be used at cooler races.

To me it's silly to call out this as a mid-season rule change to benefit RB as really it benefits AMR, Mercedes, Williams, McLaren AT and RBR - more than half the teams on the grid - and was the procedure initially planned for 2022. Seems rather like if anyone did, Ferrari were the ones to (almost - if Red Bull didn't make it out in time) benefit from mid-season rule-changes related to fuel.

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RB with its Canada wing. Is this a new low load rear wing for McLaren?

[101FlyingDutchman]

RB with its Canada wing - is this a new low load rear wing for McLaren?

Defo looks a lower load RW for Macca. Hopefully a first stab at a lesser drag package

[Ryar]

So the Red Bull / Max Mates have all forgotten Barcelona and the fact the Red Bull and AT almost failed to get out of the garages in time because their fuel was illegally cold.

Yeah, thought so.

Were the cars running a legal temperature when they left the pitlane?

If they were, you can’t complain can you.

You don’t realise how stupid it sounds when you mention it’s only benefitting one team, look how many people have called you out on it.

Clutching on to straws.

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Fabrega posted a few more teams' RWs. Seems AR and RBR are the only teams not currently with their lowest df wing on their car

[JordanMugen]

Fabrega posted a few more teams' RWs. Seems AR and RBR are the only teams not currently with their lowest df wing on their car

All very nice, but I'm anxious to see this new Williams package!

No photos of the upgraded FW44 yet?

[dialtone]

On the other hand those rules allow RBR to have fuel at 20 C on certain hot days which they fought on and caused at least one of their DNFs but Ferrari had rejected.

which one was that?

Bahrain of corse. Merc and RBR both had to do stuff around radiators thermal isolation, or fuel cooling, to make sure that fuel wouldn’t get too hot and cause issues in the fuel lines. Ferrari knew that was a challenge for them and rejected the change.

Now Ferrari probably liked to work on reliability and everyone got what they wanted.

[Ryar]

which one was that?

Bahrain of corse. Merc and RBR both had to do stuff around radiators thermal isolation, or fuel cooling, to make sure that fuel wouldn’t get too hot and cause issues in the fuel lines. Ferrari knew that was a challenge for them and rejected the change.

Now Ferrari probably liked to work on reliability and everyone got what they wanted.

Let's assume for a second that, it was a reason for engine failures, how many failures did Redbull suffer since then due to fuel pump issue? None. So how is this new regulatory change going to help RBR when they didn't have that problem for 8 races?

[mclaren111]

Fabrega posted a few more teams' RWs. Seems AR and RBR are the only teams not currently with their lowest df wing on their car

All very nice, but I'm anxious to see this new Williams package!

No photos of the upgraded FW44 yet?

Look at Williams FW44 Tread...

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Not ideal for Ferrari.. Wonder what the problem is; Binotto being constantly on the phone makes me particularly concerned

[dialtone]

which one was that?

Bahrain of corse. Merc and RBR both had to do stuff around radiators thermal isolation, or fuel cooling, to make sure that fuel wouldn’t get too hot and cause issues in the fuel lines. Ferrari knew that was a challenge for them and rejected the change.

Now Ferrari probably liked to work on reliability and everyone got what they wanted.

Let's assume for a second that, it was a reason for engine failures, how many failures did Redbull suffer since then due to fuel pump issue? None. So how is this new regulatory change going to help RBR when they didn't have that problem for 8 races?

You should ask them, they were the ones asking for that rule change after Barcelona.

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[prendrefeu]

Binotto being constantly on the phone makes me particularly concerned

I'm more concerned that he's being allowed to keep his job.