2022 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 01 - 03

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chrisc90 wrote:
02 Jul 2022, 17:15
Be interesting given the conditions tomorrow. Dry race red bull have a much faster car as shown in FP3.

I imagine Max getting past Sainz pretty quickly to be honest
Ferrari in FP3 wasn't running a very hot engine.

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Red Bull had higher RPMs in 8th gear, again not something we saw in Baku or Canada.

Cornering performance from FP3 on the other hand is to the advantage of Ferrari, might mean better tire degradation through the race, and FP2 race sims were for Ferrari.

The one weak point for Ferrari has been the start of the race since Imola Sprint Quali, and here both Ferrari will start on the clean side, while both RBR start from dirty side, hopefully they can take advantage of that... But I don't see Max clearing anyone with ease, he didn't clear anyone in Baku with ease not sure how that will happen here.

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erudite450 wrote:
02 Jul 2022, 17:17
ispano6 wrote:
02 Jul 2022, 17:09
Just_a_fan wrote:
02 Jul 2022, 17:06


No. Max was already slow (for him) well before that.
No Max just said he got hindered by the yellow flag. He had to lift.
Did you even watch the session? Max was 0.5sec down on his best time in the second sector. Leclerc spun well ahead of him in sector 3.
Of course, go back and watch exactly when the yellows came out. Did you not listen to Max's interview afterwards? He said he got hindered by the yellow flag ffs.

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Juzh wrote:
02 Jul 2022, 17:18
chrisc90 wrote:
02 Jul 2022, 17:17
Juzh wrote:
02 Jul 2022, 17:16

Lol, no. Verstappen was sort of cruising for 2-3 seconds because of overzealous yellows when leclerc spun. Cost him 1 second at least. So sainz has solely leclerc to thank for this pole position.
That was the lap prior wasnt it?
No, it was the final lap. I mean, I get why they throw yellows for the spin, but the whole thing lasted a few seconds (the spin itself), so that was some handy work from the marshals.
It's a wet track with poor visibility and a car spins - would you prefer them not to show flags in such circumstances or is it just because it's Max? Or are you suggesting the marshals did it on purpose to hinder Max?
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I don't understand why everyone gets up in arms when a driver gets booed. It's part of every other sport what makes F1 different? What do you guys think happens when Aaron Judge stands out in right field in Fenway? He's always getting heckled. And vise versa for other teams. Baseball players laugh it off. Same goes for all other sports

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Just_a_fan wrote:
02 Jul 2022, 17:24
Or are you suggesting the marshals did it on purpose to hinder Max?
No I don't, obviously it's not possible to react with such precision so quickly :D

anyway here's what happened:
Verstappen lifting for a quite long duration, not least on corner exit, losing him lots of time down the straight


leclerc's spin

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Just_a_fan wrote:
02 Jul 2022, 17:24
Juzh wrote:
02 Jul 2022, 17:18
chrisc90 wrote:
02 Jul 2022, 17:17


That was the lap prior wasnt it?
No, it was the final lap. I mean, I get why they throw yellows for the spin, but the whole thing lasted a few seconds (the spin itself), so that was some handy work from the marshals.
It's a wet track with poor visibility and a car spins - would you prefer them not to show flags in such circumstances or is it just because it's Max? Or are you suggesting the marshals did it on purpose to hinder Max?
I guess Toto was right in asking not to deploy SC in Abu Dhabi last year. What Marshals did was what they needed to do.
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Just_a_fan wrote:
02 Jul 2022, 17:24
Juzh wrote:
02 Jul 2022, 17:18
chrisc90 wrote:
02 Jul 2022, 17:17


That was the lap prior wasnt it?
No, it was the final lap. I mean, I get why they throw yellows for the spin, but the whole thing lasted a few seconds (the spin itself), so that was some handy work from the marshals.
It's a wet track with poor visibility and a car spins - would you prefer them not to show flags in such circumstances or is it just because it's Max? Or are you suggesting the marshals did it on purpose to hinder Max?
Leclerc spun which caused yellows which benefitted his teammate a pole position that which was denied to Max. Is that so hard to understand?

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Thanks for those, great direction (yet again) meant we missed quite a bit of action when it was happening, though sure wet session meant there was a lot to sort through I suppose (but, eh, those two are still the likely championship contenders, fighting for pole, and in the two fastest cars, director).

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Jesus they were sharp on the yellow flag for charles there considering he was away again 3 seconds later at most.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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Max spinning probably changed the run plan for him as he couldn't afford a cool down lap, which resulted in not getting that dominant pole.
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bosyber wrote:
02 Jul 2022, 17:29
Thanks for those, great direction (yet again) meant we missed quite a bit of action when it was happening, though sure wet session meant there was a lot to sort through I suppose (but, eh, those two are still the likely championship contenders, fighting for pole, and in the two fastest cars, director).
Why is the race director obsessed about Mercedes so much? Even when the cars are on track and going for run, we are shown the Mercedes garage. #-o
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ispano6 wrote:
02 Jul 2022, 17:28
Just_a_fan wrote:
02 Jul 2022, 17:24
Juzh wrote:
02 Jul 2022, 17:18

No, it was the final lap. I mean, I get why they throw yellows for the spin, but the whole thing lasted a few seconds (the spin itself), so that was some handy work from the marshals.
It's a wet track with poor visibility and a car spins - would you prefer them not to show flags in such circumstances or is it just because it's Max? Or are you suggesting the marshals did it on purpose to hinder Max?
Leclerc spun which caused yellows which benefitted his teammate a pole position that which was denied to Max. Is that so hard to understand?
That's the luck of the draw in the wet. At another time, Max will be the one to benefit. Or is there some suggestion that it was all done on purpose to hinder Max?
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Ryar wrote:
02 Jul 2022, 17:32
bosyber wrote:
02 Jul 2022, 17:29
Thanks for those, great direction (yet again) meant we missed quite a bit of action when it was happening, though sure wet session meant there was a lot to sort through I suppose (but, eh, those two are still the likely championship contenders, fighting for pole, and in the two fastest cars, director).
Why is the race director obsessed about Mercedes so much? Even when the cars are on track and going for run, we are shown the Mercedes garage. #-o
No idea; also even with all that, we then didn't see Hamilton's last lap either, one of the few that was still going (in favour of Carlos' uninformed of pole yet, and silent, helmet!). lolsob.

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For once the yellow flags go Ferraris way. Tough pill to swallow for Verstappen's ego.
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Ryar wrote:
02 Jul 2022, 17:27
Just_a_fan wrote:
02 Jul 2022, 17:24
Juzh wrote:
02 Jul 2022, 17:18

No, it was the final lap. I mean, I get why they throw yellows for the spin, but the whole thing lasted a few seconds (the spin itself), so that was some handy work from the marshals.
It's a wet track with poor visibility and a car spins - would you prefer them not to show flags in such circumstances or is it just because it's Max? Or are you suggesting the marshals did it on purpose to hinder Max?
I guess Toto was right in asking not to deploy SC in Abu Dhabi last year. What Marshals did was what they needed to do.
Neither Toto nor Christian should have been shouting at the race director, and the race director should have followed the rules. The marshals followed the rules today - a car spun and they put out the yellow flag because the yellow flag is a warning to the other drivers that there is a danger on the track. Would you be decrying the marshals if they hadn't shown the yellow flags and then there had been an accident?
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.