Damn, this pic is something like straight outta road rash omg
Damn, this pic is something like straight outta road rash omg
But Ferrari did have time to react. They have lost sharpness as a championship winning team. I empathise with Leclerc as the team has made many questionable calls so far this season.
Charles Leclerc should leave Ferrari if he is dreaming to win a championship in his carreer. He is burning his talent with Ferrari as Vettel and Alonso did before him.ambientnoiz wrote: ↑03 Jul 2022, 18:45Charles interview on binotto: “he wanted to cheer me up” by scolding him lmao
Ok... but when they saw the Alpine coming to a stop on the actual track, right before all the high-speed stuff, SURELY they should've prepared for a potential pitstop for both cars in that position? Anybody that saw Ocon coming to a stop knew a VSC OR Safety Car was inbound... so yeah, Ferrari did have ample time at that point to Pit both cars. Or at the very least, pit the one in the lead.
I think RB would have feared a 25 point drop to Charles after the damage.chrisc90 wrote: ↑03 Jul 2022, 18:39Good race for Lewis. be interesting to see if their performance keeps up. I dont think there is much 'change' to running order at the minute though given charles and max carrying damage.Watto wrote: ↑03 Jul 2022, 18:37I don't think they lied to him, just think they were trying to make use of the rules to protect Charles. Knowing he was likely a sitting duck make the most of the within 10 car lengths be at the back of that.west52keep64 wrote: ↑03 Jul 2022, 18:21So Ferrari tried to lie to Carlos and tell him there was some rule where he had to leave 10 car lengths to Leclerc.... that's an insane breakdown of trust between the team and the driver. Unreal.
But it was a pretty poor call. It would have just put Sainz under pressure.
Was a great race for Lewis did very well.
A race to forget for Max but only drops 6 points to Charles
The 6 point drop to charles is a godsend for Max today. Same as it would have been if Charles P1 and Max P2, so no major loss for the championship title in that respect.
Hamilton was extra careful after what happened last year, and Charles by the looks of it didn't jerk suddenly towards Hamilton like Max did. It's no surprise Max aficionados think this is what Hamilton should've done last year, without remembering, a) it takes two to tango and b) the biggest different variable being Max's absence. The irony is completely lost on them
The key denominator is perez, a repeat offender. And if both rb drivers were penalized accordingly, everyone would lose their s* and say theres a conspiracy etcDChemTech wrote: ↑03 Jul 2022, 18:56Between Perez and Leclerc there was too much of a mess, in the first lap with a very late action by Leclerc, and after the restart with some feisty attacking from Perez and aggressive defending from Leclerc. After the restart, Hamilton initially profited from that, and then later was unfortunately hampered by Perez. Hard to distinctively say what should be penalized and what not (without killing racing altogether).GrizzleBoy wrote: ↑03 Jul 2022, 18:44Lap 1 incidents are understanded to be officiated differently though as a rule of thumb for years and years.
The stewards literally made new rules this year to stop max doing what he did to Lewis over and over again in 2021, then let him do it lap after lap to mick Schumacher today.
And let Checo cut the track to overtake Charles, then almost immediately push Lewis off track to overtake him.
It's a joke.
Max on Schumacher on the other hand was unnecessary. Max should have had to give to place to Mick.
Sergio does have form for "robust" driving - he's pushed his own team mate in to the wall on more than one occasion.ambientnoiz wrote: ↑03 Jul 2022, 19:07The key denominator is perez, a repeat offender. And if both rb drivers were penalized accordingly, everyone would lose their s* and say theres a conspiracy etcDChemTech wrote: ↑03 Jul 2022, 18:56Between Perez and Leclerc there was too much of a mess, in the first lap with a very late action by Leclerc, and after the restart with some feisty attacking from Perez and aggressive defending from Leclerc. After the restart, Hamilton initially profited from that, and then later was unfortunately hampered by Perez. Hard to distinctively say what should be penalized and what not (without killing racing altogether).GrizzleBoy wrote: ↑03 Jul 2022, 18:44
Lap 1 incidents are understanded to be officiated differently though as a rule of thumb for years and years.
The stewards literally made new rules this year to stop max doing what he did to Lewis over and over again in 2021, then let him do it lap after lap to mick Schumacher today.
And let Checo cut the track to overtake Charles, then almost immediately push Lewis off track to overtake him.
It's a joke.
Max on Schumacher on the other hand was unnecessary. Max should have had to give to place to Mick.
I think they had enough time to make the call if they were switch on. Merc and RB in their prime make split second call with incidences like that is seems like too often Ferarri are caught out with things like that.
Likely have struggled like Charles did. With Perez in the very fast Red Bull on softs behind them, anyone on "old" hards would have been toast. That RB is too fast to be able to withstand with a tyre disadvantage throw in as well.
Being involved in something isn't the same as being to blame for something. Both Perez and Leclerc were over the line in their antics at some point; don't put it all on Checo.ambientnoiz wrote: ↑03 Jul 2022, 19:07The key denominator is perez, a repeat offender. And if both rb drivers were penalized accordingly, everyone would lose their s* and say theres a conspiracy etcDChemTech wrote: ↑03 Jul 2022, 18:56Between Perez and Leclerc there was too much of a mess, in the first lap with a very late action by Leclerc, and after the restart with some feisty attacking from Perez and aggressive defending from Leclerc. After the restart, Hamilton initially profited from that, and then later was unfortunately hampered by Perez. Hard to distinctively say what should be penalized and what not (without killing racing altogether).GrizzleBoy wrote: ↑03 Jul 2022, 18:44
Lap 1 incidents are understanded to be officiated differently though as a rule of thumb for years and years.
The stewards literally made new rules this year to stop max doing what he did to Lewis over and over again in 2021, then let him do it lap after lap to mick Schumacher today.
And let Checo cut the track to overtake Charles, then almost immediately push Lewis off track to overtake him.
It's a joke.
Max on Schumacher on the other hand was unnecessary. Max should have had to give to place to Mick.
Its a walk way for track workers isn't it?Just_a_fan wrote: ↑03 Jul 2022, 18:52
That is one very lucky young man. Glad, and very surprised, to see him entirely uninjured and talking to Domenicalli in the paddock. The space he ended up in needs to be looked at for future events - perhaps some additional tyres or something else to fill that gap a bit.
I suppose the real lesson here is that some still cannot admit Lewis makes mistakes, too (for which he was penalized, remember). Luckily, he did seem to have learned from last year, and we can only commend him for a great performance this year. Perhaps that is the point to discuss, instead of stabbing at last year's dead horse once again.Shrieker wrote: ↑03 Jul 2022, 19:06Hamilton was extra careful after what happened last year, and Charles by the looks of it didn't jerk suddenly towards Hamilton like Max did. It's no surprise Max aficionados think this is what Hamilton should've done last year, without remembering, a) it takes two to tango and b) the biggest different variable being Max's absence. The irony is completely lost on them