2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[erikejw]

If Ferrari pitted both drivers they could not control the front with 2 cars. One pass and they'd loose the race.

In that SC situation they choose to maximize the chance to win and they did win.

Leclerc was getting the lemon deal though imagine Sainz getting pole, Leading, being asked to give Leclerc the lead and then being sacrificed in the SC situation.

A clearer nr2 statement is hard to find. They have 2 top drivers and need them both to perform at their peak.

[erikejw]

If Ferrari pitted both drivers they could not control the front with 2 cars. One pass from the opponents and they could loose the race.

In that SC situation they choose to maximize the chance to win and they did win.

Leclerc was getting the lemon deal though imagine Sainz getting pole, Leading, being asked to give Leclerc the lead and then being sacrificed in the SC situation.

A clearer nr2 statement is hard to find. They have 2 top drivers and need them both to perform at their peak.

[Xyz22]

If Ferrari pitted both drivers they could not control the front with 2 cars. One pass and they'd loose the race.

In that SC situation they choose to maximize the chance to win and they did win.

Leclerc was getting the lemon deal though imagine Sainz getting pole, Leading, being asked to give Leclerc the lead and then being sacrificed in the SC situation.

A clearer nr2 statement is hard to find. They have 2 top drivers and need them both to perform at their peak.

Sainz is nowhere near to be a top driver as he showed this season multiple times.
If someone was left on old and cold hard tyres would have been demolished in 1 lap so keeping one car out was extremely stupid.

[Drift4794]

Great article from Albano as customary: https://www.formulapassion.it/opinioni/ ... 24803.html

[Alonsismo]

[UlleGulle]

Ferrari has a big problem with confidence in the strategy desk.

First you have the confidence of the drivers.

VER and HAM often complain about strategy calls, but when the "Box Box Box" command is given, they trust their engineers and head into the pits. With Ferrari, it seems to be a negotiation every time, and LEC being the more compliant one, too often gets the short end of the stick for it.

This takes time, and makes them miss their windows of opportunity. If the Safety car wouldn't have come out, I'm pretty sure HAM would have came bearing down on both SAI and LEC. A racing driver, especially for Ferrari, needs to be able to cope with a direct instruction "You are not fast enough. Now let your teammate through". Repeated requests to up the pace is just a silly waste of time.

They also need to be able to cope with the fact that sometimes they are sacrificed for the greater good. I guess Abu Dhabi wasn't fun for PER last season, but it's all a part of the gig. Here LEC had both track position and championship position, but SAI was still given the optimum strategy. This was probably because his tires were worse, and he would probably fall like a stone at the restart. But that would have been a part of the job. A team needs to make those calls, and a driver in a top team needs to accept them.

Secondly, the Ferrari strategy desk needs to have some confidence in itself. It seems like RB and Merc plans outs it's races and acts on events, whilst Ferrari mererly reacts to others, which almost always put's them on the back foot.

Hmmmm..... Hamilton vs Niko in the last race of the season purposely backed Nico into competitors instead of keeping a good pace. Hamilton was not obeying team orders and could potentially have caused a disaster. Too much complaining going on here.

Yes you are correct. However.

1. That was 6 years ago.
2. The WCC was long settled.
3. HAM vs ROS was for the championship. Many champions less well mannered than ROS would just have done a crazy lunge and let HAM choose between letting them through or crashing.

If Ferrari wants to fight for the championship, their strategy department needs to, you know, fight for the championship.

[JPower]

You're right. His job is to relay information. Too bad he's terrible at that too as the clip I linked above showed. Seb continuously has to ask for basic info that should be automatically provided to him and has to make him do elementary target lap time calculations. Oh and congrats on ignoring the entire part where I talk about the larger problem with the strategy department.

As usual, your only response has been smug replies and feeble attempts at gotchas, none of which will change the basic conclusion that the team needs a major revamp in the strat department.

So you're looking to replace Adami because of a mistake he made with Seb a few years ago? Not because of anything he did in the last race or anything this season? Seems pretty random.

Never said anything about the strategy team not needing changes. I'd definitely like for a more consistent effort on that area for Ferrari. Don't know anyone that wouldn't.

[ferkan]

Reports from Italy (F1analisitecnica) say that
before Montreal Ferrari's main goal was to get Sainz his first victory, and that mood is now very mixed with how they achieved. They knew old hards wont be able to defend from new softs but went with it still.

Think this could break that relationship. I think its very hard to drive for a team where you are trembling even if you have pace and are 5-10-15s ahead down the road.

[ferkan]

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He should drive faster tbh. Being so much behind his team mate who drove without FW endplate is a bit disappointing.

[pipoloko]

I have seen a lot of discussions (fans and Journalists) about should Ferrari have done a double stack? should Ferrari protect LEC? etc etc
was Ferrari strategists mistake again ? etc etc
what is Ferrari number 1 priority?
Ferrari!!! not the drivers
it will be very difficult to win 2022 constructors championship, most like will RB's
even today they can not relay in MB problems, they will be back and the 2nd position and a lot of $$$ will be at risk
looking some data (www.en.mclaren) Sainz car was the slowest car on track
the double stack was not the risk they were facing, the risk was alonso and norris passing Sainz so the point collection would be less that the points collected yesterday therefore if they risk to be 3rd in championship they are risking many millions
that was the Team decision !!!!!!
As a team the best decisison that could be made , no matter LEC crying as a child.
in my humble opinion

[Schumix]

Reports from Italy (F1analisitecnica) say that
before Montreal Ferrari's main goal was to get Sainz his first victory, and that mood is now very mixed with how they achieved. They knew old hards wont be able to defend from new softs but went with it still.

Think this could break that relationship. I think its very hard to drive for a team where you are trembling even if you have pace and are 5-10-15s ahead down the road.

Fully agreed with you.
Taking into consideration Leclerc’s talent, far above Sainz, I do not think that Leclerc will stay with Ferrari for a long time. I will not be surprised if he joins Mercedes after Hamilton retires.
After what happened yesterday, definetely Ferrari is not focused on wining the championship.

[Schumix]

I have seen a lot of discussions (fans and Journalists) about should Ferrari have done a double stack? should Ferrari protect LEC? etc etc
was Ferrari strategists mistake again ? etc etc
what is Ferrari number 1 priority?
Ferrari!!! not the drivers
it will be very difficult to win 2022 constructors championship, most like will RB's
even today they can not relay in MB problems, they will be back and the 2nd position and a lot of $$$ will be at risk
looking some data (www.en.mclaren) Sainz car was the slowest car on track
the double stack was not the risk they were facing, the risk was alonso and norris passing Sainz so the point collection would be less that the points collected yesterday therefore if they risk to be 3rd in championship they are risking many millions
that was the Team decision !!!!!!
As a team the best decisison that could be made , no matter LEC crying as a child.
in my humble opinion

So, you are explaining to us that Ferrari, instead of making a 1-2 (because they had enough time to pit their two cars), has prefered to sacrifice Leclerc top position in order to save Sainz poor pace.

[pipoloko]

I should explain what I meant by SAI "slowest car"
it is clear they altered setup during red flag and SAI's was more "wet" than LECs
check speeds and SAI was many km/h behind LEC and other compensated with a better handling for sure.

[Schumix]

If Ferrari pitted both drivers they could not control the front with 2 cars. One pass and they'd loose the race.

In that SC situation they choose to maximize the chance to win and they did win.

Leclerc was getting the lemon deal though imagine Sainz getting pole, Leading, being asked to give Leclerc the lead and then being sacrificed in the SC situation.

A clearer nr2 statement is hard to find. They have 2 top drivers and need them both to perform at their peak.

Sainz is nowhere near to be a top driver as he showed this season multiple times.
If someone was left on old and cold hard tyres would have been demolished in 1 lap so keeping one car out was extremely stupid.

From what I have seen so far with Sainz since he joined F1, he is not clearly part of the top drivers of his generation like Verstappen, Leclerc, Norris and Russel.
He is a good and combative driver, but not a top driver

[Schumix]

I should explain what I meant by SAI "slowest car"
it is clear they altered setup during red flag and SAI's was more "wet" than LECs
check speeds and SAI was many km/h behind LEC and other compensated with a better handling for sure.

But Sainz was still in P2 despite all the points you are raising. On top of that, the race is on Sunday not during qualifications on Saturday.
It would have been smart to pit the two cars since there was enough time to do so.
There is nothing that can justify why Ferrari took the wrong décisions. Someone can call that inefficiency or something worse