2022 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 01 - 03

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chrisc90 wrote:
05 Jul 2022, 22:10
If Charles wants to be a #1 driver in the team he will never stand a chance at Red Bull I think thats Max's key role. But if it ended up being much better scoring then it would probably change.


On another note....Why didnt Ferrari drivers just slow down enough in order to get to the pit in order to double stack? Sainz could have slowed down enough in order to build a gap to get both the cars pitted. Would have required some skilful driving with timings and Lewis behind (who couldnt pass) but I cant see why he couldnt slow down and then accelerate away from lewis in order to maintain his position whilst pitting
Didn't that very thing cause much upset in certain camps during the Jeddah (?) race last year, with Bottas creating a gap in order to double stack?
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Just_a_fan wrote:
05 Jul 2022, 23:02
chrisc90 wrote:
05 Jul 2022, 22:10
If Charles wants to be a #1 driver in the team he will never stand a chance at Red Bull I think thats Max's key role. But if it ended up being much better scoring then it would probably change.


On another note....Why didnt Ferrari drivers just slow down enough in order to get to the pit in order to double stack? Sainz could have slowed down enough in order to build a gap to get both the cars pitted. Would have required some skilful driving with timings and Lewis behind (who couldnt pass) but I cant see why he couldnt slow down and then accelerate away from lewis in order to maintain his position whilst pitting
Didn't that very thing cause much upset in certain camps during the Jeddah (?) race last year, with Bottas creating a gap in order to double stack?
Got away with it aswell I believe. Way more than 10 car lengths. But, when does the 10 car lengths come into play I presume its after you have caught up to the safety car and in the 'train.'
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMNAojRt4/?k=1

Another view of the Zhou crash
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Schuttelberg wrote:
05 Jul 2022, 20:53
Anyone else here desperate to see Charles in any other team?
No, I would prefer to se him stamp his mark on This team and pull them together.
I know He does not technically have the authority to do it, but he is an intelligent charismatic guy and well respected in all F1.

I know when Schumacher did it he had his own team around him, but I do not think the trouble is with the individuals but with the system. If he can get some of the higher-ups on his side, they can cut out the constant foot shooting and if the team get confidence back, who knows.

Other than that, if Lewis decides to call it a day Merc should move heaven and earth to get him in.
Russell and Chas? yes please
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chrisc90 wrote:
05 Jul 2022, 23:11
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMNAojRt4/?k=1

Another view of the Zhou crash
Shame they didn't know how to hold a camera / phone to get it the correct orientation. Or is this the joys of Apple?
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Big Tea wrote:
05 Jul 2022, 23:17


Other than that, if Lewis decides to call it a day Merc should move heaven and earth to get him in.
Russell and Chas? yes please
That would be a disaster, I think. Two guys that see themselves as the top dog? Horror show for the team to manage.
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Jolle wrote:
05 Jul 2022, 11:25
sosic2121 wrote:
05 Jul 2022, 11:14
RZS10 wrote:
05 Jul 2022, 00:26
You made a good point here.

They called for SC while they did most of the work under VSC condition.
Worst part is, with VSC Leclerc would probably have won the race!

Can you tell me when Leclerc caught up with Safety car? Did he have a second chance to pit before that?
I think Leclec didn’t loose out because of the safety car but because Ferrari decided to prioritise Sainz somehow over the leading car.
You are 100%. It seems like they were surprised by SC which is incredible!! :wtf:
Everyone knew sc or vsc will be called.

I'm not even trying to say SC was unnecessary, just that sc was called but work was done under VSC conditions, and if vsc was called instead, CL would possibly/probably win.

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RZS10 wrote:
05 Jul 2022, 11:34
Jolle wrote:
05 Jul 2022, 11:25
I think Leclec didn’t loose out because of the safety car but because Ferrari decided to prioritise Sainz somehow over the leading car.
They even had the gap to double stack. Just a complete brainfart on their part. Only reason i see why they did not pit him was that they thought Lewis might stay out and wanted to have track position.

sosic2121 wrote:
05 Jul 2022, 11:14
Can you tell me when Leclerc caught up with Safety car? Did he have a second chance to pit before that?
LEC was picked up by the SC right at the pit exit and the others caught up just after copse - no chance to pit without position loss.
Tnx for the answer!

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Just_a_fan wrote:
05 Jul 2022, 23:18
Big Tea wrote:
05 Jul 2022, 23:17


Other than that, if Lewis decides to call it a day Merc should move heaven and earth to get him in.
Russell and Chas? yes please
That would be a disaster, I think. Two guys that see themselves as the top dog? Horror show for the team to manage.
Now yes, but if Russell has been there 2 years I think he will handle it
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Just_a_fan wrote:
05 Jul 2022, 23:17
chrisc90 wrote:
05 Jul 2022, 23:11
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMNAojRt4/?k=1

Another view of the Zhou crash
Shame they didn't know how to hold a camera / phone to get it the correct orientation. Or is this the joys of Apple?
Maybe they are just holding it wrong :lol:
:lol: 8)

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I watched this race with my elderly father, and he kept asking me if Charles always whines over the radio... I had no choice but to tell him "yes"...🙄

Good race!

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That's a great analysis, and,
RZS10 wrote:
05 Jul 2022, 00:26
Why they made the call? It's anyone's guess but Liberty surely was happy with the late drama and action.
..that's all there is to it, innit ? Formula wwe strikes back.
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Just_a_fan wrote:
05 Jul 2022, 23:17
chrisc90 wrote:
05 Jul 2022, 23:11
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMNAojRt4/?k=1

Another view of the Zhou crash
Shame they didn't know how to hold a camera / phone to get it the correct orientation. Or is this the joys of Apple?
I think thats probably more the app than the recording. The scaling is the wrong way to be filmed in portrait mode.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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Re: 2022 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 01 - 03

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Interesting take from Mark Hughes on Ferrari communication.
Just wondering, in the initial laps, if Charles had constantly asked for gap to Lewis instead of requesting to Invert position, may be Ferrari would have realised risk of loosing a win?

https://the-race.com/formula-1/mark-hug ... t-leclerc/

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chrisc90 wrote:
05 Jul 2022, 22:10
If Charles wants to be a #1 driver in the team he will never stand a chance at Red Bull I think thats Max's key role. But if it ended up being much better scoring then it would probably change.


On another note....Why didnt Ferrari drivers just slow down enough in order to get to the pit in order to double stack? Sainz could have slowed down enough in order to build a gap to get both the cars pitted. Would have required some skilful driving with timings and Lewis behind (who couldnt pass) but I cant see why he couldnt slow down and then accelerate away from lewis in order to maintain his position whilst pitting
Redbull would never hire leclerc unless they were thinking that max is retiring or leaving. But leclerc already basically came to ferrari as a number 2 and forced seb out by showing he was better. I think he would be trouble for max in quali but not sure how it would play out in the races. But this year i must say he has been close to maxs level in race pace but not quite there imo.