2022 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 01 - 03

[NL_Fer]

Why didnt Ferrari drivers just slow down enough in order to get to the pit in order to double stack?

Ferrari did explain that, they thought new soft tires would not last the remaining laps so he could not regain the leadership. That´s assuming if they both pitted their rivals wouldn´t. That´s the problem of leading a race when a SC is deployed, your rivals can react and take opposite strategy to take the lead

How stupid, Hamilton was struggling after the restart, to get heat in his new soft tires. That is how Perez got passed. He would have been a sitting duck on hards, with both Ferrari’s on soft behind.

[sAx]

The roll bar is supposed to withstand a load of 50kN laterally, 60 kN longitudinally in a rearward direction and 90kN vertically . The FIA will need to increase the resistance ASAP. This is worrisome.tom

Is this correct? A car accelerating at 100mph with a mass of 900kg and hitting the roll-hoop, sounds something like 10x the design load i.e. 90kN = 9tonnes force.

[Hammerfist]

Why didnt Ferrari drivers just slow down enough in order to get to the pit in order to double stack?

Ferrari did explain that, they thought new soft tires would not last the remaining laps so he could not regain the leadership. That´s assuming if they both pitted their rivals wouldn´t. That´s the problem of leading a race when a SC is deployed, your rivals can react and take opposite strategy to take the lead

How stupid, Hamilton was struggling after the restart, to get heat in his new soft tires. That is how Perez got passed. He would have been a sitting duck on hards, with both Ferrari’s on soft behind.

Merc is really awful at tire warmup. They consistently lose out in quali too and have to do extra laps which isnt ideal. Youd think they would have solved that by now. Its been an issue for years.

[NL_Fer]

Ferrari did explain that, they thought new soft tires would not last the remaining laps so he could not regain the leadership. That´s assuming if they both pitted their rivals wouldn´t. That´s the problem of leading a race when a SC is deployed, your rivals can react and take opposite strategy to take the lead

How stupid, Hamilton was struggling after the restart, to get heat in his new soft tires. That is how Perez got passed. He would have been a sitting duck on hards, with both Ferrari’s on soft behind.

Merc is really awful at tire warmup. They consistently lose out in quali too and have to do extra laps which isnt ideal. Youd think they would have solved that by now. Its been an issue for years.

They solved it in 2020, but that funny steeringwheel got banned.

[Sieper]

It’s not awful, everything has a trade off. Better tire wear.

DAS was ideal for them because it could put exactly the amount of heat needed into the front tires. Rears you can spin to warm them up.

[PlatinumZealot]

I think it’s just the price you pay to get SAI to play the support role. I expect Ferrari moving forward to outwardly favour LEC; you’ve had your pole - you’ve had your win Carlos, time now to do what’s right by the team.

This. Sainz is not going to win the championship under normal circumstances as Leclerc's teammate, but Sainz was thirsting for a win. The desire was giving him fits. Might as well get that win out of the way so he can focus on helling Ferrari win the WDC and WCC.

[JPower]

I think it’s just the price you pay to get SAI to play the support role. I expect Ferrari moving forward to outwardly favour LEC; you’ve had your pole - you’ve had your win Carlos, time now to do what’s right by the team.

This. Sainz is not going to win the championship under normal circumstances as Leclerc's teammate, but Sainz was thirsting for a win. The desire was giving him fits. Might as well get that win out of the way so he can focus on helling Ferrari win the WDC and WCC.

I disagree. Given Sainz's trend over the past 3 years, he's only going to get stronger as the year progresses. He wasn't brought in to be a support driver.

Leclerc needs to continue doing what he always does. Drive fast. If he's as far ahead in pace as people say he is from Sainz, and the car stays in one piece, he should make his own luck.

[ringo]

Also Leclerc isnt entitled to wins. I agree with letting sainz win.
Leclerc messed up qualy, and messed up the start by crashing into Perez.
He made his bed by damaging his own wing.

As for leaving ferrari, biggest mistake if he does so. Leclerc is still reletively new to F1. It would be very ungrateful if he left just because of 1 race where he made crucial mistakes.
It just goes to show that at Ferrari its not about being the most talented. The team comes first.
What's important is he finished ahead of Max.
In the next races he should keep his nose clean and make sure he is in P1 after q3 and lap 1.

[silver]

Despite the errors, Leclerc put himself in contention for a win with robust pace. Before fingers are pointed to his mistakes, it should be noted that Ferrari this year, once again, produced mediocre strategy calls which affected him badly in Monaco despite his stellar efforts. Even in this GP, he was there in prime position to win if Ferrari would have done the right thing, to call him for new rubber. We wouldn't be discussing this if Ferrari would have pit him and gave him new set of tyres. This is so reminiscent of what happened in 2017 Germany where they couldn't make a simple decision of taking Raikkonen out of Vettel's way. Leclerc is ahead on points and it could have been potentially, 19 points gain against Verstappen instead of just 8 and he would be 2nd in the standings, not 3rd.

[Andres125sx]

Why didnt Ferrari drivers just slow down enough in order to get to the pit in order to double stack?

Ferrari did explain that, they thought new soft tires would not last the remaining laps so he could not regain the leadership. That´s assuming if they both pitted their rivals wouldn´t. That´s the problem of leading a race when a SC is deployed, your rivals can react and take opposite strategy to take the lead

Which means that the data they got from FPs where wrong!
Not to mention of course that this is a lie, since they LEC-SAI had 9 seconds diff when the SC came out. Unless the 5 secs they told us in Monaco was BS. I doubt tough, because if you consider that the average pit stop is around 3.5, 5 sec diff sounds about right.

You´re assuming if both Lecrerc and Sainz pitted, their rivals would too. But that´s not real. If you´re third and the two cars in front of you do change tires, any team will keep his driver on track to try the victory. Ferrari thought in that case they could not overtake because the soft tires would keep their advantage for few laps.

Probably wrong, but that´s easy to say with hindsight. They did prefer split strategies to secure the victory. Too conservative? Sure, but that´s what Ferrari has been doing for many years, not that they´re intentionally ruining Lecrerc championship, simply that they´re some step down RBR on the strategy department

[Andres125sx]

Also Leclerc isnt entitled to wins. I agree with letting sainz win.
Leclerc messed up qualy, and messed up the start by crashing into Perez.
He made his bed by damaging his own wing.

As for leaving ferrari, biggest mistake if he does so. Leclerc is still reletively new to F1. It would be very ungrateful if he left just because of 1 race where he made crucial mistakes.
It just goes to show that at Ferrari its not about being the most talented. The team comes first.
What's important is he finished ahead of Max.
In the next races he should keep his nose clean and make sure he is in P1 after q3 and lap 1.

+1

[johnny comelately]

The Zhou crash analysis showing the roll "hoop" mount failure

[Hammerfist]

Also Leclerc isnt entitled to wins. I agree with letting sainz win.
Leclerc messed up qualy, and messed up the start by crashing into Perez.
He made his bed by damaging his own wing.

As for leaving ferrari, biggest mistake if he does so. Leclerc is still reletively new to F1. It would be very ungrateful if he left just because of 1 race where he made crucial mistakes.
It just goes to show that at Ferrari its not about being the most talented. The team comes first.
What's important is he finished ahead of Max.
In the next races he should keep his nose clean and make sure he is in P1 after q3 and lap 1.

Leclerc was the much better driver on the day though, even after his rare poor outing in quali and even with a damaged car. And he has destroyed sainz all year. Only his lack reliability has him so close to sainz in the standings. He’s the only one who can beat verstappen right now. Sainz has demonstrated that he cant 2 races in a row. I think they will come to their senses and back leclerc. Word is many people at ferrari are unhappy with the way things turned out after the safety car and rightfully so.

[hollus]

Ferrari's strategy blunder in Silverstone seems to be all the rage here, and even in the Austrian GP thread... during the race I too was screaming what are they doing?!
But looking at it coldly:
That disaster (not stacking both cars to get Leclerc on new softs), turned a likely 1-3 into a 1-4. It is only a catastrophe from Leclerc's point of view.
On the other side, that 3rd turned 4th meant that if the hard had turned out to be better, Ferrari would still have won.
It meant that Hamilton had no scenario in which he beat both Ferraris, at least not one in which he was likely to have track position and decent tires. Not even with the advantage of doing "opposite to".
It meant that if there was another SC, or a red flag, the team had preserved track position.

If you do a full probabilistic cost benefit analysis, I am not so sure it was a bad decision. And, hush, hush, they even won the race.

But we all saw how then politics mixed badly with brainy strategy and likely they mixed best for the team with perceived best for Leclerc.

[codetower]

just looking at it like that, a 1-3 vs a 1-4, without context doesn't sound so bad. But assuming the "correct" call was made, and Ferrari had a 1-3 instead of a 1-4 with Leclerc winning. This is a MUCH better result for Ferrari. Assuming Perez finished 4th, that would put 1 of the Ferrari drivers in 2nd place in the standings, put the TEAM closer to RB as well. so the 1-3 would benefit Ferrari in both the WDC and the WCC. So even though they won the race, they took a step backwards in the Drivers championship, and didn't maximize points in the constructors.