2022 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, July 08 - 10

[Bill]

high altitude thin air means running big rear wing is not a drag penalty. You need an efficient turbo so Honda has traditionally run better at those track like Mexico and Bra

[gandharva]

high altitude thin air means running big rear wing is not a drag penalty.

Yes, but it's the car, not just altitude. They also ran one of the largest rear wings in Silverstone (153m).

[Juzh]

Bit of a oddball one.

Does anyone have any views from the Red Bull grandstand in sections J/K? Hard to find any reliable info online

Been there once. In terms of red bull ring and it's all around excellent views it's a bit of a boring one as you're mid straight and cars are just flying past you.
(not my pic)


New T3 stands are there from last year and those are really good.

[erudite450]

high altitude thin air means running big rear wing is not a drag penalty.

Yes, but it's the car, not just altitude. They also ran one of the largest rear wings in Silverstone (153m).

Before this season, Horner would point at Mercedes wing level as the evidence that Honda/Renault was massively down on power.

EDIT: So which is it?

[Schippke]

2 words this weekend... Red Bull.

Cannot see them finishing with anything other than a 1,2... barring any surprises with the Sprint or reliability concerns.

I think Mercedes will be on a similar level to where they were at in Silverstone, so they could very well be in the mix with Ferrari this weekend... if Lewis is getting back into his stride, might be a solid choice for 3rd place.

I still think the Sprint Weekend should be Friday FP1/FP2, Saturday Qualifying/Sprint and Sunday Grand Prix (Cars go into Parc Ferme like they do on a normal race weekend once they exit the pit-lane for qualifying. THAT BEING SAID... I'd rather not have it at all.

[SiLo]

Hate sprint weekends. We just end up with a longer race and an artificial red flag in between. Sunday is always far more boring as anyone making mistakes in qualifying has a short sprint to make up for it.

It makes the sprint itself exciting, but then the main event on Sunday suffers far more for it.

[Wouter]

[Wouter]

[ali623]

2 words this weekend... Red Bull.

Cannot see them finishing with anything other than a 1,2... barring any surprises with the Sprint or reliability concerns.

I think Mercedes will be on a similar level to where they were at in Silverstone, so they could very well be in the mix with Ferrari this weekend... if Lewis is getting back into his stride, might be a solid choice for 3rd place.

I still think the Sprint Weekend should be Friday FP1/FP2, Saturday Qualifying/Sprint and Sunday Grand Prix (Cars go into Parc Ferme like they do on a normal race weekend once they exit the pit-lane for qualifying. THAT BEING SAID... I'd rather not have it at all.

I don't see Mercedes being as strong here as at Silverstone, that circuit suited them to a tee and is one of Lewis' best circuits. On the contary, RBR is probably one of his worst circuits if you look at his results there.

Agree that the only thing stopping a Max win is reliability, otherwise he'll cruise it.

[F1NAC]

how was F175 behaving in traction zones with lower DF RW? Will this negate their advantage there to bring them not faster but closer to RB?

[organic]

how was F175 behaving in traction zones with lower DF RW? Will this negate their advantage there to bring them not faster but closer to RB?

The traction problems for leclerc at Canada were ers related rather than rear wing related.

[silver]

how was F175 behaving in traction zones with lower DF RW? Will this negate their advantage there to bring them not faster but closer to RB?

The traction problems for leclerc at Canada were ers related rather than rear wing related.

I thought it was due to rears having gone due to a low downforce setup. When he changed tyres, he was immediately quick.

[organic]

how was F175 behaving in traction zones with lower DF RW? Will this negate their advantage there to bring them not faster but closer to RB?

The traction problems for leclerc at Canada were ers related rather than rear wing related.

I thought it was due to rears having gone due to a low downforce setup. When he changed tyres, he was immediately quick.

Motorsport italy reported it was due to changing ERS deployment for Charles to help him cut his way through the field (so as not to clip at end of straights). They can change deployment map mid-race so may have, along with changing tyres, got the ERS better tailored to benefit Charles the most.

[Juzh]

The traction problems for leclerc at Canada were ers related rather than rear wing related.

I thought it was due to rears having gone due to a low downforce setup. When he changed tyres, he was immediately quick.

Motorsport italy reported it was due to changing ERS deployment for Charles to help him cut his way through the field (so as not to clip at end of straights). They can change deployment map mid-race so may have, along with changing tyres, got the ERS better tailored to benefit Charles the most.

As I explained in ferrari thread this ERS theory is nonsense. Motorsport italy are silly to have suggested it, proving they don't know squat about how ers systems work on f1 cars even in basic theory.

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Traction problems were combined low wing setup and older tyres compared to most of the field he was racing against at that stage.

[organic]

I thought it was due to rears having gone due to a low downforce setup. When he changed tyres, he was immediately quick.

Motorsport italy reported it was due to changing ERS deployment for Charles to help him cut his way through the field (so as not to clip at end of straights). They can change deployment map mid-race so may have, along with changing tyres, got the ERS better tailored to benefit Charles the most.

As I explained in ferrari thread this ERS theory is nonsense. Motorsport italy are silly to have suggested it, proving they don't know squat about how ers systems work on f1 cars even in basic theory.

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Traction problems were combined low wing setup and older tyres compared to most of the field he was racing against at that stage.

Makes sense. ERS deployment at end of straights as opposed to beginning makes no sense if you're seeking to be quicker