Ferrari F1-75

[dialtone]

No surprise in running the lower-downforce wings... they'll need all the speed they can get just to try and keep up with Red Bull on the straights, let alone worry about overtaking them!

This myth will never die huh?

[LM10]

No surprise in running the lower-downforce wings... they'll need all the speed they can get just to try and keep up with Red Bull on the straights, let alone worry about overtaking them!

You're way too late to the party. Have you stopped watching after the first 3 races?

[organic]

No surprise in running the lower-downforce wings... they'll need all the speed they can get just to try and keep up with Red Bull on the straights, let alone worry about overtaking them!

This myth will never die huh?

Unfortunately when the likes of Button/Hill/Ted are still pedalling this narrative on the broadcasts and official podcasts people will believe it

It's a shame

[Andi76]

No surprise in running the lower-downforce wings... they'll need all the speed they can get just to try and keep up with Red Bull on the straights, let alone worry about overtaking them!

You obviously are not aware that Sainz had the highest Topspeed on a straight at Silverstone...

[Sevach]

[Schippke]

Sorry I'm not as technical minded as everyone here, but visually speaking compared to the type of rear wing that Red Bull is able to run, it would seem they can run a higher downforce rear-wing compared to Ferrari and not suffer much on the Top Speed side of things.

Have you stopped watching after the first 3 races?

Was that sledge really necessary?

You obviously are not aware that Sainz had the highest Topspeed on a straight at Silverstone...

Honestly, no I'm not aware; From reading the Speed Trap data from the British Grand Prix, Sainz was actually at the bottom at 315km/h whilst Perez (fastest) was 332.6km/h, Max 4th at 328.9km/h. Charles 9th at 326.3km/h...

[f300v10]

At this point it is clear that most if not all of Red Bulls early season top speed advantage over the F1-75 was down to the rear wing design(s) of the Ferrari having higher drag, especially when DRS was deployed. With the design introduced in Canada there is very little difference is top speeds between the two cars. A clear indication of this can be found in the Austria Qualifying session data, where DRS was used consistently and little to no slipstreaming occurred to skew the numbers. Comparing the speed trap values of Max vs. Charles on their fastest Q3 laps shows there is very little to choose between them:

SpeedI1 SpeedI2 SpeedFL SpeedST
Max 316 247 285 316
CL 313 249 283 315

[deadhead]

At this point it is clear that most if not all of Red Bulls early season top speed advantage over the F1-75 was down to the rear wing design(s) of the Ferrari having higher drag, especially when DRS was deployed. With the design introduced in Canada there is very little difference is top speeds between the two cars. A clear indication of this can be found in the Austria Qualifying session data, where DRS was used consistently and little to no slipstreaming occurred to skew the numbers. Comparing the speed trap values of Max vs. Charles on their fastest Q3 laps shows there is very little to choose between them:

SpeedI1 SpeedI2 SpeedFL SpeedST
Max 316 247 285 316
CL 313 249 283 315

Didn't they bring an update to the floor to match the wing?

[Sevach]

At this point it is clear that most if not all of Red Bulls early season top speed advantage over the F1-75 was down to the rear wing design(s) of the Ferrari having higher drag, especially when DRS was deployed. With the design introduced in Canada there is very little difference is top speeds between the two cars. A clear indication of this can be found in the Austria Qualifying session data, where DRS was used consistently and little to no slipstreaming occurred to skew the numbers. Comparing the speed trap values of Max vs. Charles on their fastest Q3 laps shows there is very little to choose between them:

SpeedI1 SpeedI2 SpeedFL SpeedST
Max 316 247 285 316
CL 313 249 283 315

Didn't they bring an update to the floor to match the wing?

Last time the floor was updated was Barcelona.
Silverstone had a sidepod update which may (or may not) have changed drag levels.

[Seanspeed]

At this point it is clear that most if not all of Red Bulls early season top speed advantage over the F1-75 was down to the rear wing design(s) of the Ferrari having higher drag, especially when DRS was deployed. With the design introduced in Canada there is very little difference is top speeds between the two cars. A clear indication of this can be found in the Austria Qualifying session data, where DRS was used consistently and little to no slipstreaming occurred to skew the numbers. Comparing the speed trap values of Max vs. Charles on their fastest Q3 laps shows there is very little to choose between them:

SpeedI1 SpeedI2 SpeedFL SpeedST
Max 316 247 285 316
CL 313 249 283 315

Aren't Red Bull running higher angle of attack nowadays, though? And yet still have higher top speeds, if only just. All while not having the deficit in cornering that they had before.

[zioture]

Ferrari in Austria opens the slits in the body work but sends the hood to the rear

[pierrre]

carpentiers is on a roll, great work

[Marble]

This evening, during press conference, Binotto confirmed that they have bridged the gap to RedBull in straight line speed thanks to the new rear wing brought in Canada (for Leclerc, and for both of them from Silverstone onwards).
RedBull were better when DRS was open

Thread :

[Ozan]

so does anybody know what was the cause of the fire on Sainz's car ?

[basti313]

so does anybody know what was the cause of the fire on Sainz's car ?

Oil.
You can see parts of the crankcase flying through the sidepanel....that was a big one.

I wonder...was it Nr 3 that was put in new for this race?