2022 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, July 08 - 10

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Since you asked:
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chrisc90 wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 22:37
Hoffman900 wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 22:32
chrisc90 wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 22:27


In which regard, the same for Just_a_fan complaining about Micks defence to Hamilton.

No Hamilton/Mercedes fan can ever bring up being pushed out when overtaking when their own driver did the exact same thing on lap 1.
Want to show the screen grab of Sergio almost pit maneuvering himself off Hamilton when he cut across his nose?

Did Max’s fan page move here? Looking at the list of top posters there and I see a lot of familiar names…
Get it posted up, or a video. Even better.

I can’t see how anyone can even attempt to defend Hamilton’s move to pushing Perez over.
Guess behind some fans rose tinted glasses, he can never do anything wrong and it’s lays someone else’s fault.
Are we really arguing over getting squeezed, no accident. No cars went off track and everyone made the finish. And how can you say it’s not a cars width when clearly there’s a car where there’s not a cars width?

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holeindalip wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 22:47
chrisc90 wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 22:37
Hoffman900 wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 22:32


Want to show the screen grab of Sergio almost pit maneuvering himself off Hamilton when he cut across his nose?

Did Max’s fan page move here? Looking at the list of top posters there and I see a lot of familiar names…
Get it posted up, or a video. Even better.

I can’t see how anyone can even attempt to defend Hamilton’s move to pushing Perez over.
Guess behind some fans rose tinted glasses, he can never do anything wrong and it’s lays someone else’s fault.
Are we really arguing over getting squeezed, no accident. No cars went off track and everyone made the finish. And how can you say it’s not a cars width when clearly there’s a car where there’s not a cars width?
Not worth it. He clearly has an agenda.

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holeindalip wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 22:47
chrisc90 wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 22:37
Hoffman900 wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 22:32


Want to show the screen grab of Sergio almost pit maneuvering himself off Hamilton when he cut across his nose?

Did Max’s fan page move here? Looking at the list of top posters there and I see a lot of familiar names…
Get it posted up, or a video. Even better.

I can’t see how anyone can even attempt to defend Hamilton’s move to pushing Perez over.
Guess behind some fans rose tinted glasses, he can never do anything wrong and it’s lays someone else’s fault.
Are we really arguing over getting squeezed, no accident. No cars went off track and everyone made the finish. And how can you say it’s not a cars width when clearly there’s a car where there’s not a cars width?
It wasn’t me complaining about Mick squeezing Hamilton though was it?
I said before it was hard racing between Lewis and Perez a page or 2 back. But then people pop along and say Mick was squeezing Hamilton.
So it’s only right to bring up Hamilton doing the same thing himself to Perez.

The guy ain’t no angel, despite what he wants people to believe he is.
I’d still love to see evidence of Mick running him off, as from the TV stream, there Wasn’t anything of close to the sort.


@ Hoffman - looks worse than it probably was tbh, Perez was ahead and moved across to get by the car in front on the outside. It’s not as bad as deliberately moving over on a straight bit of road
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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Hoffman900 wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 22:48

Not worth it. He clearly has an agenda.
No ‘agenda’ here. I’ll just sit back and wait for this footage of Mick running Hamilton off the track to never arrive to actually support a point of someone’s favourite driver
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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Hoffman900 wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 22:39
chrisc90 wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 22:37
Hoffman900 wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 22:32


Want to show the screen grab of Sergio almost pit maneuvering himself off Hamilton when he cut across his nose?

Did Max’s fan page move here? Looking at the list of top posters there and I see a lot of familiar names…
Get it posted up, or a video. Even better.

I can’t see how anyone can even attempt to defend Hamilton’s move to pushing Perez over.
Guess behind some fans rose tinted glasses, he can never do anything wrong and it’s lays someone else’s fault.
1100 posts in 7 months and 7 upvotes (and mostly for just sharing a tweet), Max Verstappen avatar, and the only one with a problem here. Yeah, I can read the room… :lol:

Having actually raced in motorsports, this was nothing.
Careful, you'll get a board warning! :wink: :lol:
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.

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No one said Lewis is an angel and having raced in motorsports and continue to race bicycles, I do what Lewis did to Sergio all the time. In cycling, unless your handlebars are next to me, I owe you no space. If I’m being nice, no more than your handlebar’s width.

What Sergio did after was 100x more aggressive.


You’re just wrong and are arguing from a position you have no experience with.
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chrisc90 wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 22:37
Hoffman900 wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 22:32
chrisc90 wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 22:27


In which regard, the same for Just_a_fan complaining about Micks defence to Hamilton.

No Hamilton/Mercedes fan can ever bring up being pushed out when overtaking when their own driver did the exact same thing on lap 1.
Want to show the screen grab of Sergio almost pit maneuvering himself off Hamilton when he cut across his nose?

Did Max’s fan page move here? Looking at the list of top posters there and I see a lot of familiar names…
Get it posted up, or a video. Even better.

I can’t see how anyone can even attempt to defend Hamilton’s move to pushing Perez over.
Guess behind some fans rose tinted glasses, he can never do anything wrong and it’s lays someone else’s fault.
I admire your courage chrisc90. How dare you question the driving of his royal highness sir LH? Then all his ministers step in. Nothing new, unfortunately :|.

I think its better to let it go, other wise we'll see derailling this thread into the unreadable bickering.

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Hoffman900 wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 23:00
No one said Lewis is an angel and having raced in motorsports and continue to race bicycles, I do what Lewis did to Sergio all the time. In cycling, unless your handlebars are next to me, I owe you no space. If I’m being nice, no more than your handlebar’s width.

What Sergio did was 100x more aggressive.


You’re just wrong and are arguing from a position you have no experience with.
Based on your theory then… Sergio owes Lewis no space because he wasn’t level with him. Or vice versa.

I’m pleased you know about my history and lack of experience to comment on. Great theory to base an opinion on
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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chrisc90 wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 22:55
Hoffman900 wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 22:48

Not worth it. He clearly has an agenda.
No ‘agenda’ here. I’ll just sit back and wait for this footage of Mick running Hamilton off the track to never arrive to actually support a point of someone’s favourite driver
Here’s the clip

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxMGUXB7Gr2 ... rVnqlSK1sk

Pretty much the same as the Albon move except Hamilton has the brains to back out of it because that corner narrows on the exit

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chrisc90 wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 23:02
Hoffman900 wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 23:00
No one said Lewis is an angel and having raced in motorsports and continue to race bicycles, I do what Lewis did to Sergio all the time. In cycling, unless your handlebars are next to me, I owe you no space. If I’m being nice, no more than your handlebar’s width.

What Sergio did was 100x more aggressive.


You’re just wrong and are arguing from a position you have no experience with.
Based on your theory then… Sergio owes Lewis no space because he wasn’t level with him. Or vice versa.

I’m pleased you know about my history and lack of experience to comment on. Great theory to base an opinion on
It’s very obvious, because if you do know, you’re just being a troll, clearly.

And yes, Sergio’s move was fair, but it was way higher risk to Sergio himself which is what makes it worst, because he could have easily taken himself out.

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Hamilton fan here!

Can't really understand why people are complaining about Schumacher's defense! The guy just couldn't brake late enough to pass Schumacher...it was getting frustrating! If you look at Perez's pass Hamilton had exactly the same opportunity a lap later (lap 12 I think) yet instead for going for the inside he chose to go to the outside line and try a DRS pass down to turn 4!

Problem is he did the same thing for about 10 laps until in the end it worked! What gets on my nerves lately with Hamilton is that he's not aggressive enough even though he isn't racing for the championship and he tries the same move again and again until he succeeds instead of changing lines and trying something different!

I don't expect anything better tomorrow...he needs a good start and the only time he had a great start (Silverstone first start) the grid got reverted back to the original order! He also has an Alpine in front of him which for some reason are quite fast down the straights so I expect a boring race where he's stuck for 50 laps behind Ocon...

Apart from Hamilton Ferrari doesn't seem anywhere near Verstapen...I don't really understand why Leclerc was confident for tomorrow! Russell also doesn't seem fast enough to challenge the Ferraris let alone the Red Bulls!

All in all a boring race coming up...hopefully I'll be proved wrong!!
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TNTHead wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 23:01
chrisc90 wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 22:37
Hoffman900 wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 22:32


Want to show the screen grab of Sergio almost pit maneuvering himself off Hamilton when he cut across his nose?

Did Max’s fan page move here? Looking at the list of top posters there and I see a lot of familiar names…
Get it posted up, or a video. Even better.

I can’t see how anyone can even attempt to defend Hamilton’s move to pushing Perez over.
Guess behind some fans rose tinted glasses, he can never do anything wrong and it’s lays someone else’s fault.
I admire your courage chrisc90. How dare you question the driving of his royal highness sir LH? Then all his ministers step in. Nothing new, unfortunately :|.

I think its better to let it go, other wise we'll see derailling this thread into the unreadable bickering.
Considering half of Max’s fanboard top ten is here, I think it’s pretty clear most are arguing from such an extreme position, that pointing out the obvious in rules of engagement, makes one look like a Lewis fan, when you’re just pointing out a common motorsports wheel to wheel technique.

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AMG.Tzan wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 23:05
Hamilton fan here!

Can't really understand why people are complaining about Schumacher's defense! The guy just couldn't brake late enough to pass Schumacher...it was getting frustrating! If you look at Perez's pass Hamilton had exactly the same opportunity a lap later (lap 12 I think) yet instead for going for the inside he chose to go to the outside line and try a DRS pass down to turn 4!

Problem is he did the same thing for about 10 laps until in the end it worked! What gets on my nerves lately with Hamilton is that he's not aggressive enough even though he isn't racing for the championship and he tries the same move again and again until he succeeds instead of changing lines and trying something different!

I don't expect anything better tomorrow...he needs a good start and the only time he had a great start (Silverstone first start) the grid got reverted back to the original order! He also has an Alpine in front of him which for some reason are quite fast down the straights so I expect a boring race where he's stuck for 50 laps behind Ocon...

Apart from Hamilton Ferrari doesn't seem anywhere near Verstapen...I don't really understand why Leclerc was confident for tomorrow! Russell also doesn't seem fast enough to challenge the Ferraris let alone the Red Bulls!

All in all a boring race coming up...hopefully I'll be proved wrong!!
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AMG.Tzan wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 23:05
Apart from Hamilton Ferrari doesn't seem anywhere near Verstapen...I don't really understand why Leclerc was confident for tomorrow!
I actually thought Sainz looked pretty quick until he was (most likely?!) told to back off. He had a strong race with McLaren in Spielberg as well when he raced from last to 6th or sth like that, and finished ahead of Leclerc in both races last year. Maybe he's the one to watch out for tomorrow.