Ferrari F1-75

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GrizzleBoy
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Crazy how fast it spread right upto the monocoque.

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basti313 wrote:
10 Jul 2022, 23:25
Ozan wrote:
10 Jul 2022, 22:56
so does anybody know what was the cause of the fire on Sainz's car ?
Oil.
You can see parts of the crankcase flying through the sidepanel....that was a big one.
Maybe i'm wrong but i think that was the turbo

phase 1: ICE issue, some smoke from the rear of the car
phase 2: some part of the ICE goes thought the exhaust to the turbo and the turbo explodes
phase 3: oil form turbo lubrication/cooling go on fire

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Scary
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.poz wrote:
11 Jul 2022, 15:15
basti313 wrote:
10 Jul 2022, 23:25
Ozan wrote:
10 Jul 2022, 22:56
so does anybody know what was the cause of the fire on Sainz's car ?
Oil.
You can see parts of the crankcase flying through the sidepanel....that was a big one.
Maybe i'm wrong but i think that was the turbo

phase 1: ICE issue, some smoke from the rear of the car
phase 2: some part of the ICE goes thought the exhaust to the turbo and the turbo explodes
phase 3: oil form turbo lubrication/cooling go on fire
basti313 have seen at least part of the crankcase flying through the sidepanel.

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pierrre wrote:
10 Jul 2022, 08:06
carpentiers is on a roll, great work

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXOjMi9WYAA ... ame=medium
Any chance someone more knowledgable than me could annotate this image? Would love to understand what each of these components does.

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GrizzleBoy wrote:
11 Jul 2022, 06:53
Crazy how fast it spread right upto the monocoque.
It was concentrated at the back until Sainz went to get out of the car and the car rolled backwards.

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.poz wrote:
11 Jul 2022, 15:15
basti313 wrote:
10 Jul 2022, 23:25
Ozan wrote:
10 Jul 2022, 22:56
so does anybody know what was the cause of the fire on Sainz's car ?
Oil.
You can see parts of the crankcase flying through the sidepanel....that was a big one.
Maybe i'm wrong but i think that was the turbo

phase 1: ICE issue, some smoke from the rear of the car
phase 2: some part of the ICE goes thought the exhaust to the turbo and the turbo explodes
phase 3: oil form turbo lubrication/cooling go on fire
watch it again, before the car came to a stop there was like a bit of a small explosion

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pierrre wrote:
12 Jul 2022, 14:46
.poz wrote:
11 Jul 2022, 15:15
basti313 wrote:
10 Jul 2022, 23:25

Oil.
You can see parts of the crankcase flying through the sidepanel....that was a big one.
Maybe i'm wrong but i think that was the turbo

phase 1: ICE issue, some smoke from the rear of the car
phase 2: some part of the ICE goes thought the exhaust to the turbo and the turbo explodes
phase 3: oil form turbo lubrication/cooling go on fire
watch it again, before the car came to a stop there was like a bit of a small explosion
turbos can explode. imagine something at 15000 rpm suddenly stopping because a piece of an exhaust valve goes inside it

https://youtu.be/w4sH4pLlSRo

also the most damaged part is at the rear of the engine, where the turbo (splited or not) is

of course it'all assumptions

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.poz wrote:
13 Jul 2022, 18:41
pierrre wrote:
12 Jul 2022, 14:46
.poz wrote:
11 Jul 2022, 15:15


Maybe i'm wrong but i think that was the turbo

phase 1: ICE issue, some smoke from the rear of the car
phase 2: some part of the ICE goes thought the exhaust to the turbo and the turbo explodes
phase 3: oil form turbo lubrication/cooling go on fire
watch it again, before the car came to a stop there was like a bit of a small explosion
turbos can explode. imagine something at 15000 rpm suddenly stopping because a piece of an exhaust valve goes inside it

https://youtu.be/w4sH4pLlSRo

also the most damaged part is at the rear of the engine, where the turbo (splited or not) is

of course it'all assumptions
Ah yes, exhaust valve's day out.
All jokes aside, how can a piece of exhaust valve come out at the first place? (over pressure perhaps?)
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aleks_ader
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I think valve can explode into multiple pieces.
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ema00
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most likely fatigue reason

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GrizzleBoy wrote:
11 Jul 2022, 06:53
Crazy how fast it spread right upto the monocoque.
Petrol does that. Burns rather well.

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mzso wrote:
14 Jul 2022, 19:14
GrizzleBoy wrote:
11 Jul 2022, 06:53
Crazy how fast it spread right upto the monocoque.
Petrol does that. Burns rather well.
I'll repeat that it's very unlikely it's petrol, there's way too much energy in burning petrol, if there was a leak it would have been a lot faster than that, and more violent.

It's more likely it's oil from the turbo, when the turbo broke and exploded, oil started leaking out and the heat ignited it.