2022 French Grand Prix - Le Castellet, July 22 - 24

[deadhead]

Ferrari's new rear wing has flipped that narrative to some extent. Otherwise RB would have walked Austria.

RB should be strong(er) in Sector 2, but Ferrari will be very strong in Sectors 1 and 3.

Is the new narrative

RBR wins front limited tracks
Ferrari wins rear limited tracks

?

Austria is front limited, the fronts wore faster than the rears. In fact the rear tires this year are very strong and to make the fronts last requires a more rear biased driving style. You have to be a little more aggressive with the rears to make them wear at the same rate as the fronts, but that technique invites more mistakes. If you just rely on the fronts and try to save the rears you'll end up with understeer as the fronts wear faster than the rears.

Well if that's the case then I guess we are out of narratives..

[chrisc90]

On the plus side, the summer months have been helpful regarding porpoising. The high track temperatures likely make the bouncing less likely. The one outlier of course being Austria, which is at altitude and the air is naturally less dense there than at sea level.

Interested how the weather played a part in that.

However, its amazing that once the FIA began looking into it, all the noise and bouncing on track stopped.

[organic]

High temps means engines will be under stress again.. Barcelona had RB struggling to come out the pits with the correct temp fuel, Merc lifting and coasting a lot throughout race, Ferrari engine explosion.. Could be interesting

First win for Alpine then

Perhaps Alpine no... Their engines just don't make it to the end independent of temperature

[godlameroso]

On the plus side, the summer months have been helpful regarding porpoising. The high track temperatures likely make the bouncing less likely. The one outlier of course being Austria, which is at altitude and the air is naturally less dense there than at sea level.

Interested how the weather played a part in that.

However, its amazing that once the FIA began looking into it, all the noise and bouncing on track stopped.

Air density decreases with temperature increase, the speed of sound also increases with temperature increase. It's not a huge change, but it may have been just enough to make a difference.

[Just_a_fan]

On the plus side, the summer months have been helpful regarding porpoising. The high track temperatures likely make the bouncing less likely. The one outlier of course being Austria, which is at altitude and the air is naturally less dense there than at sea level.

Interested how the weather played a part in that.

However, its amazing that once the FIA began looking into it, all the noise and bouncing on track stopped.

Amazing that the teams affected spent the season to date developing their cars and finding solutions where they could.

Equally amazing that two teams are against the changes to the plank rules and those teams are leading and have seen their performance least affected by bouncing so far this season.

[Just_a_fan]

On the plus side, the summer months have been helpful regarding porpoising. The high track temperatures likely make the bouncing less likely. The one outlier of course being Austria, which is at altitude and the air is naturally less dense there than at sea level.

Interested how the weather played a part in that.

However, its amazing that once the FIA began looking into it, all the noise and bouncing on track stopped.

Air density decreases with temperature increase, the speed of sound also increases with temperature increase. It's not a huge change, but it may have been just enough to make a difference.

Or the teams have been working to find solutions.

[godlameroso]

On the plus side, the summer months have been helpful regarding porpoising. The high track temperatures likely make the bouncing less likely. The one outlier of course being Austria, which is at altitude and the air is naturally less dense there than at sea level.

Interested how the weather played a part in that.

However, its amazing that once the FIA began looking into it, all the noise and bouncing on track stopped.

Amazing that the teams affected spent the season to date developing their cars and finding solutions where they could.

Equally amazing that two teams are against the changes to the plank rules and those teams are leading and have seen their performance least affected by bouncing so far this season.

So they should be happy they have to spend money and time to comply with mid season changes while Mercedes doesn't? Hardly seems fair, Horner says the claims are rubbish, and the plank flexibility is alleged, not confirmed. In any case, it's effectively eating into the team's budget cap.

[LM10]

On the plus side, the summer months have been helpful regarding porpoising. The high track temperatures likely make the bouncing less likely. The one outlier of course being Austria, which is at altitude and the air is naturally less dense there than at sea level.

Interested how the weather played a part in that.

However, its amazing that once the FIA began looking into it, all the noise and bouncing on track stopped.

Amazing that the teams affected spent the season to date developing their cars and finding solutions where they could.

Equally amazing that two teams are against the changes to the plank rules and those teams are leading and have seen their performance least affected by bouncing so far this season.

The thing is that Ferrari has never really stopped porpoising. They’ve just not been affected by it on a car stability point of view. So I ask myself how or to what extent they’re supposed to be one of the teams exploiting those grey areas. At Silverstone for example Mercedes had even less porpoising than Ferrari.

Also, Ferrari still has the most potential among the top teams in terms of lowering the car. RedBull’s and Mercedes’ floors are touching the ground in a quite significant way. Which leads to my second thought that with next year’s rules when a certain amount of ground clearance will be mandatory, Ferrari shouldn’t have as much of a performance loss. Or maybe I’m wrong, we’ll see.

[Just_a_fan]

Hardly seems fair, Horner says the claims are rubbish

Well, he would wouldn't he.

[deadhead]

High temps means engines will be under stress again.. Barcelona had RB struggling to come out the pits with the correct temp fuel, Merc lifting and coasting a lot throughout race, Ferrari engine explosion.. Could be interesting

First win for Alpine then

Perhaps Alpine no... Their engines just don't make it to the end independent of temperature

Harsh but true!

But maybe these temps can give us a surprise winner...

[ringo]

Interested how the weather played a part in that.

However, its amazing that once the FIA began looking into it, all the noise and bouncing on track stopped.

Amazing that the teams affected spent the season to date developing their cars and finding solutions where they could.

Equally amazing that two teams are against the changes to the plank rules and those teams are leading and have seen their performance least affected by bouncing so far this season.

So they should be happy they have to spend money and time to comply with mid season changes while Mercedes doesn't? Hardly seems fair, Horner says the claims are rubbish, and the plank flexibility is alleged, not confirmed. In any case, it's effectively eating into the team's budget cap.

Wouldnt it be unfair in the first place if a team is going against the regulations from the start of the season?
If it is that Redbull and Ferrari have been circumventing the rules, that means all the wins up to this stage were aided by rule breaking. So I disagree with your opinion.
They should be happy to keep their points and be thankful they only just have to adapt to mid season changes.
Assuming they are in fact breaking the regulations.

[CRazyLemon]

On the plus side, the summer months have been helpful regarding porpoising. The high track temperatures likely make the bouncing less likely. The one outlier of course being Austria, which is at altitude and the air is naturally less dense there than at sea level.

Interested how the weather played a part in that.

However, its amazing that once the FIA began looking into it, all the noise and bouncing on track stopped.

Amazing that the teams affected spent the season to date developing their cars and finding solutions where they could.

Equally amazing that two teams are against the changes to the plank rules and those teams are leading and have seen their performance least affected by bouncing so far this season.

There are two teams being specifically accused. They are then the same two teams being questioned around it, but I haven't seen any of them coming out saying they're against it. Also I would say Ferrari has been affected a lot by bouncing, they just seem to still have the speed and we cannot tell if it is affecting their performance or not. Potentially it is and their true performance would put them well clear of RBR.

[Andres125sx]

Just get back to basics (Mid-Ohio, Indy car ) :
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I don't think any track-limit policing is required here.

But that´s very dangerous. Always, but specially when wet, grass do not slow down any car out of control, and the collision with barriers will be huge.

Let alone bikes, as tracks are never F1 tracks exclusively


But a 1m strip of grass, then tarmac, would work perfectly I think. There should be a small step down (2-3cm) between the grass and the tarmac at the exit to prevent roll overs

[chrisc90]

Wasn’t it Mercedes’ who mentioned this loophole then rock up to the next GP with a 2 piece plank after running all the previous with a single piece one.

I wonder why the change; if you can’t beat them - join them

[mzivtins]

Wasn’t it Mercedes’ who mentioned this loophole then rock up to the next GP with a 2 piece plank after running all the previous with a single piece one.

I wonder why the change; if you can’t beat them - join them

It should have been looked at and banned right away if there was an issue. Letting it slide and be delayed is pathetic and any team not doing it, should now do it because if they don't they face an unfair disadvantage.