2022 French Grand Prix - Le Castellet, July 22 - 24

[mendis]

Last year is last year.... this year they are using lower engine modes in free practices COMPARED TO Ferrari, you can see it, if you look at telemetry data from past free practices and compare it with data from races. Dosvidania 🫡

While it is true that Red bull is using their 1st engine in FPs, their speed trap numbers were higher today. Both Max and Sergio were clocking 313-314kph on race sims, followed by Mercedes at around 305kph and Ferraris at around 297kph. The difference between Red Bull and Ferraris is represented by higher engine modes. Max was also stuck behind Sergio, who was stuck behind a McLaren and Max backed off for a lap and then clocked his last race sim lap of 1.37.7.

[Hammerfist]

Seems that the RB18' new floor that has to pass the new tests in Spa is hampers them for at least 0.5 sec/lap, or maybe this unbalanced car and time loss is down to overheating the tires in the 3rd sector?

Nevertheless, VER being at least 1 sec faster than SAI&LEC in the FP2 sim race laps means they were lower on fuel, hence a possible 3 stops race strategy, due to both track roughness and very hot track temps...

How do you know RB18 will lose 0.5 second in Spa? There is no expert that is talking about it.

He didn’t say it as a fact. He was asking a question. Imo until we get to spa and the tracks thereafter we wont know who is being affected.

[chrisc90]

Seems that the RB18' new floor that has to pass the new tests in Spa is hampers them for at least 0.5 sec/lap, or maybe this unbalanced car and time loss is down to overheating the tires in the 3rd sector?

Nevertheless, VER being at least 1 sec faster than SAI&LEC in the FP2 sim race laps means they were lower on fuel, hence a possible 3 stops race strategy, due to both track roughness and very hot track temps...

How do you know RB18 will lose 0.5 second in Spa? There is no expert that is talking about it.

He didn’t say it as a fact. He was asking a question. Imo until we get to spa and the tracks thereafter we wont know who is being affected.

Well the first part was a statement. The second half was a question regarding possible tyre temps.

[johnny comelately]

Maybe already posted but porpoise bouncing for McLaren, Alpha Tauri, Ferrari.
The McLarens were not happy campers and seem to be affected the most from the bottoming out.
It would possible exceed this new parameter?? When is that being implemented?

[organic]

Maybe already posted but porpoise bouncing for McLaren, Alpha Tauri, Ferrari.
The McLarens were not happy campers and seem to be affected the most from the bottoming out.
It would possible exceed this new parameter?? When is that being implemented?

At the moment the parameter is due to be implemented in Spa, so at least some races for data gathering and the summer break to make changes if it is a real problem

[nico5]

Maybe already posted but porpoise bouncing for McLaren, Alpha Tauri, Ferrari.
The McLarens were not happy campers and seem to be affected the most from the bottoming out.
It would possible exceed this new parameter?? When is that being implemented?

RB also through Signes, slightly less than Ferrari. Merc none at all there.

[chrisc90]

RD notes have some very strange track rejoining procedures from looking at the photo's. It almost looks like the car has to do a hard right in order to go through some of the bollards to rejoin.

[chrisc90]

Just under 20kmh speed difference between Ham's barn door High DF wing to the red bulls! and on the softer tyre

[djones]

Well that was quite strange. How did Hamilton manage to go so much faster? Engine mode?

[yamahasho]

Anyone else think it’d going to be another boring French gp, wanted to see if others are agreeing for F. Alonso claiming F1 is boring with the same winners Ves, Lec, Perez and Sainz.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/fernando- ... ll-boring/

What needs to change this sport to make it less boring, will it be better when new rules take place for Spa?

I just look forward to rain or a safety car to shake things up.

When will they put the cars back to the driver, tired of seeing these semi automatic cars that can’t follow and can only take one race line. What needs to change here? Manual trans? Being back a shift lever? Raise the car more? Ban floors? Zero driver aids? Mechanical adjustments? Ban pitting during safety cars?

Franceb gp prediction:
1) leclerc
2) vesper or vice versa
3) the rest of the teammates
.75 secs back per lap
4) Mercedes
then
Alpine

Yea let’s spend $150 million to be faster by 1 second from the back of the pack.

Someone surprise me.

[chrisc90]

RB looking MIGHTY in S2.

[chrisc90]

Williams are well up too.

[JPBD1990]

Anyone got the long run times Ferrari did earlier in the session/how they compare to themselves and redbulls longer runs from yesterday?

Pace suggests they’re focused on race pace, but if redbulls long runs remain strong then they are looking terrifying this weekend.

[chrisc90]

Anyone got the long run times Ferrari did earlier in the session/how they compare to themselves and redbulls longer runs from yesterday?

Pace suggests they’re focused on race pace, but if redbulls long runs remain strong then they are looking terrifying this weekend.

From memory and just the live TV stream, Max did quite a few laps on the medium. So could be some longer stint data there to compare to yesterday after setup changes.

Charles .637 down to Max and complaining with the soft tyres after 1 lap.

[Schippke]

From that session, hard to see Ferrari (well, Charles) getting past Max here... Long run race still looking very strong, plus being able to go for a couple of push laps and not being too far off his best time is quite telling. Compared to Charles who was already mentioning his tyres were gone after a push lap...

Unless Ferrari is still running very de-tuned compared to Red Bull, Max for Pole and Win?