Max Verstappen easily won today's French Grand Prix after his main title rival Charles Leclerc crashed out from the lead in the first half of the race. Mercedes optimised the opportunity and complete the podium with Hamilton finished second and Russell third.
It was a gift because the only person capable of challenging for the win crashed out. That's not Max's fault, of course, and he did what was required to bring the car home for the win so well done Max. It would have been much harder if Charles had kept it on track.
Slam dunk penalty for Russell there, they gave it to Ocon for the same thing in the same corner.
Determined at the apex, we need a few frames on. Rules are clear
How far do you go down the line with that though? Is every position gained when someone runs wide/goes off gifted too?Just_a_fan wrote: ↑24 Jul 2022, 16:54It was a gift because the only person capable of challenging for the win crashed out. That's not Max's fault, of course, and he did what was required to bring the car home for the win so well done Max. It would have been much harder if Charles had kept it on track.
Hmm but 5 seconds would lose the podium. That would be a shame, also an example of rather slow decision making by the officials given Russell already went up on to the podium.
You think they'd still be fighting under VSC?InsaneX_Badger wrote: ↑24 Jul 2022, 16:45He went off on a very fast corner that stresses the tyres and often a place for other cars fighting. Think it was the 100% right call
Yep, that's the exact definition. If anything, it's more than just wheel to wheel, his wheel is even past the mid point of Checo's car.
That's not the rule this year. You have to be ahead at the apex to be granted space, you definitely need to leave it.Shrieker wrote: ↑24 Jul 2022, 17:01Yep, that's the exact definition. If anything, it's more than just wheel to wheel, his wheel is even past the mid point of Checo's car.
Another thing that's quite obvious, is the fact that Checo will have left less (well, a lot less) than a car's width by the time they reach the apex, which he is under obligation to. Very, very naughty from Perez that could've put both cars out on the spot.
It's not about being alongside at the apex (which Russell doesn't even manage - he's behind). If it was about just being alongside or slightly behind at the apex, max would not have been penalized at Monza last season. We've seen them being decently consistent with this. Precedent is that you cannot launch from miles behind with dive-bombs and claim a right to the corner by shoving a nose inShrieker wrote: ↑24 Jul 2022, 17:01Yep, that's the exact definition. If anything, it's more than just wheel to wheel, his wheel is even past the mid point of Checo's car.
Another thing that's quite obvious, is the fact that Checo will have left less (well, a lot less) than a car's width by the time they reach the apex, which he is under obligation to. Very, very naughty from Perez that could've put both cars out on the spot.
Agreed .. he had no business there.
It was a gifted podium place, Mercedes would have at best been 3rd had Charles finished the race. It was only Lewis having a great start and then driving brilliantly to defend against Perez that gave them a sniff of a podium - Perez should have been on the podium.chrisc90 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2022, 16:58How far do you go down the line with that though? Is every position gained when someone runs wide/goes off gifted too?Just_a_fan wrote: ↑24 Jul 2022, 16:54It was a gift because the only person capable of challenging for the win crashed out. That's not Max's fault, of course, and he did what was required to bring the car home for the win so well done Max. It would have been much harder if Charles had kept it on track.
We could go as far as another gifted podium for Mercedes, But it’s just how racing goes
