2022 French Grand Prix - Le Castellet, July 22 - 24

[Spoutnik]

What a boring race. This season is as boring as 2020 for the title. At least there's more wheel to wheel battle thanks to the new rules...

[falonso81]

Russel still should have left space on the outside though, instead forcing him off track

It was a very opportunistic lunge there from Russel and he was never going to make the corner.
I tend to disagree with the people that blame Perez. When the car behind makes a late lunge, we should not expect the car in front to just open the door and let the other one pass. By the time Russell arrived at the apex, Perez already committed to it and was turning.

[Sieper]

Fantastic race by Max again. Puts the pressures on and knows where the limits are. Great execution, a big step here.

[Sieper]

Russel still should have left space on the outside though, instead forcing him off track

It was a very opportunistic lunge there from Russel and he was never going to make the corner.
I tend to disagree with the people that blame Perez. When the car behind makes a late lunge, we should not expect the car in front to just open the door and let the other one pass. By the time Russell arrived at the apex, Perez already committed to it and was turning.

Perez did nothing wrong there. Russell was on the radio again and again about it. Yes to his team. But this should be discussed at the next driver meeting. Stewards decide, no radio quibbles. If you need to play politics, one try, that’s it. The rest should be disallowed.

[chrisc90]

Russel still should have left space on the outside though, instead forcing him off track

It was a very opportunistic lunge there from Russel and he was never going to make the corner.
I tend to disagree with the people that blame Perez. When the car behind makes a late lunge, we should not expect the car in front to just open the door and let the other one pass. By the time Russell arrived at the apex, Perez already committed to it and was turning.

Perez did nothing wrong there. Russell was on the radio again and again about it. Yes to his team. But this should be discussed at the next driver meeting. Stewards decide, no radio quibbles. If you need to play politics, one try, that’s it. The rest should be disallowed.

Even in media interviews he reckons he was right.

Would love to see him get a penalty after the race for it. Can’t see it though

[cplchanb]

Russel still should have left space on the outside though, instead forcing him off track

It was a very opportunistic lunge there from Russel and he was never going to make the corner.
I tend to disagree with the people that blame Perez. When the car behind makes a late lunge, we should not expect the car in front to just open the door and let the other one pass. By the time Russell arrived at the apex, Perez already committed to it and was turning.

Perez did nothing wrong there. Russell was on the radio again and again about it. Yes to his team. But this should be discussed at the next driver meeting. Stewards decide, no radio quibbles. If you need to play politics, one try, that’s it. The rest should be disallowed.

drivers talk to their teams all the time as they should. if anything blame liberty for sensationalizing trivial radio chatter and making small talk turn to epic race altering declarations of war on the radio. look at least year with the team to fia chatter broadcasted. it has done nothing but cause a rift between team, viewer and the fia.. not to mention damage the reputation of f1

[cplchanb]

It was a very opportunistic lunge there from Russel and he was never going to make the corner.
I tend to disagree with the people that blame Perez. When the car behind makes a late lunge, we should not expect the car in front to just open the door and let the other one pass. By the time Russell arrived at the apex, Perez already committed to it and was turning.

Perez did nothing wrong there. Russell was on the radio again and again about it. Yes to his team. But this should be discussed at the next driver meeting. Stewards decide, no radio quibbles. If you need to play politics, one try, that’s it. The rest should be disallowed.

Even in media interviews he reckons he was right.

Would love to see him get a penalty after the race for it. Can’t see it though

why? no contact was made, they reset and george later passed him fairly. would your assessment be the same for max last year in AD for the exact same move and consequence he did on ham at the start?

[f1jcw]

Russel still should have left space on the outside though, instead forcing him off track

It was a very opportunistic lunge there from Russel and he was never going to make the corner.
I tend to disagree with the people that blame Perez. When the car behind makes a late lunge, we should not expect the car in front to just open the door and let the other one pass. By the time Russell arrived at the apex, Perez already committed to it and was turning.

I would agree with you, except for 1 point, how many times has it being allowed before

[chrisc90]

Perez did nothing wrong there. Russell was on the radio again and again about it. Yes to his team. But this should be discussed at the next driver meeting. Stewards decide, no radio quibbles. If you need to play politics, one try, that’s it. The rest should be disallowed.

Even in media interviews he reckons he was right.

Would love to see him get a penalty after the race for it. Can’t see it though

why? no contact was made, they reset and george later passed him fairly. would your assessment be the same for max last year in AD for the exact same move and consequence he did on ham at the start?

The AD is just pointless to bring back up.

This scenario is no different to the one of Ocon who got a penalty for the same thing.
You still need to leave space for the car on the outside - regardless of contact or not

[Sieper]

It was a very opportunistic lunge there from Russel and he was never going to make the corner.
I tend to disagree with the people that blame Perez. When the car behind makes a late lunge, we should not expect the car in front to just open the door and let the other one pass. By the time Russell arrived at the apex, Perez already committed to it and was turning.

Perez did nothing wrong there. Russell was on the radio again and again about it. Yes to his team. But this should be discussed at the next driver meeting. Stewards decide, no radio quibbles. If you need to play politics, one try, that’s it. The rest should be disallowed.

drivers talk to their teams all the time as they should. if anything blame liberty for sensationalizing trivial radio chatter and making small talk turn to epic race altering declarations of war on the radio. look at least year with the team to fia chatter broadcasted. it has done nothing but cause a rift between team, viewer and the fia.. not to mention damage the reputation of f1

That is exactly my point. So they put a stop to the teams talking to the stewards, now they talk to the team as if talking to the stewards. 1 time is the limit for me. Call it in if you must, vent your anger and all the rest is politics. Which we shouldn’t need for the obvious reasons.

[f1jcw]

Even in media interviews he reckons he was right.

Would love to see him get a penalty after the race for it. Can’t see it though

why? no contact was made, they reset and george later passed him fairly. would your assessment be the same for max last year in AD for the exact same move and consequence he did on ham at the start?

The AD is just pointless to bring back up.

This scenario is no different to the one of Ocon who got a penalty for the same thing.
You still need to leave space for the car on the outside - regardless of contact or not

I thought it was very valid to bring up AD.

[Sieper]

why? no contact was made, they reset and george later passed him fairly. would your assessment be the same for max last year in AD for the exact same move and consequence he did on ham at the start?

The AD is just pointless to bring back up.

This scenario is no different to the one of Ocon who got a penalty for the same thing.
You still need to leave space for the car on the outside - regardless of contact or not

I thought it was very valid to bring up AD.

I bring up Leclerc crashing at Monza a few years back. A carbon copy of today.

[Spoutnik]

You are right to bring all these cases, but it's useless the FIA is inconsistent, everytime. There's no precedent for them.

[101FlyingDutchman]

Very lucky not to get a penalty

I can't even imagine what he was mumbling about on the radio, he had absolutely no business being there and then left no room, basically created collision situation, should have received something like a warning, not a penalty, but warning from stewards, that was unacceptable move, especially coupled with moaning on the radio, he seems to think he had legit claim to that corner

this is pretty much what max did to ham several times last year such as imola and the race start in AD... divebombs to force the move or take them both out. its funny how some people just forget about the blue driver last year and excuse that as hard racing.

Let’s make everything back into a VER/HAM “issue”. Whoever it is, it isn’t right to dive bomb anyone and have the car now on the outside only with 2 choices. Bailing out or know the impact is going to come. If the car on the inside cannot make the corner then it’s not a move that’s “on”.

The real problem is the inconsistency of stewarding. Which has created the real issue. No one knows what the rule is. And it’s worth taking the risk as there is a good chance the stewards may “reward” you

[Mogster]

Why was everyone allowed to go off track without penalty, the cutting at T3 was very obvious, di Resta mentioned it on the Sky broadcast. Perez had a second warning early on then nothing, could race control not be arsed or something?