2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

This forum contains threads to discuss teams themselves. Anything not technical about the cars, including restructuring, performances etc belongs here.
dialtone
dialtone
121
Joined: 25 Feb 2019, 01:31

Re: 2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

Post

selvam_e2002 wrote:
24 Jul 2022, 18:13
It is throttle peddle issue. Ferrari covering it in media however it is reveled in post driver discussions before podium ceremony. Th Rb engineer said it is throttle issue. Then broadcaster mutted all conversation in that room. So it is clear throttle issue.
no it's not the pedal issue, he was too fast into the corner.

bosyber
bosyber
45
Joined: 15 Sep 2015, 22:41

Re: 2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

Post

Or maybe a bit of wind while keeping almost the same line and pace; at earlier laps as we saw Verstappen battle him the back already seemed unstable (di Resta at Sky commented on that several times), so maybe the car was really on the limit and it caught him out. On balance I think it's good Leclerc is honest with himself and the team, but he really needs to keep working on eliminating that (apparently, queue Sky too, Jock Clear is working with him on that, good for him, hope it improves).

tpe
tpe
-4
Joined: 03 Feb 2006, 00:24
Location: Greece

Re: 2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

Post

I don't believe for a second that Leclerc's exit was a throttle issue.
Clearly it was a driver mistake. Anyway...
Yesterday Ferrari did a very good job at the strategy, today everything went wrong. From the slow pitstop to the unsafe release.

I believe they should try to stay out, but I guess they had already checked Lec tires and they didn't think they could make it to the end

User avatar
gandharva
252
Joined: 06 Feb 2012, 15:19
Location: Munich

Re: 2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

Post

Spoutnik wrote:
24 Jul 2022, 18:00
I think Ferrari can win the WCC tho with Sainz on top form.
If they continue like this they will have to watch out for Mercedes in WCC. Merc is closer to Ferrari than Ferrari to RBR.

Spoutnik
Spoutnik
6
Joined: 03 Feb 2015, 19:02

Re: 2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

Post

tpe wrote:
24 Jul 2022, 18:55
I don't believe for a second that Leclerc's exit was a throttle issue.
Clearly it was a driver mistake. Anyway...
Yesterday Ferrari did a very good job at the strategy, today everything went wrong. From the slow pitstop to the unsafe release.

I believe they should try to stay out, but I guess they had already checked Lec tires and they didn't think they could make it to the end
What is the mistake exactly
It's always very weird how top driver lost suddenly the car sometimes
It's like Hamilton in Brazil 2017 to me very very surprising

Spoutnik
Spoutnik
6
Joined: 03 Feb 2015, 19:02

Re: 2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

Post

gandharva wrote:
24 Jul 2022, 19:14
Spoutnik wrote:
24 Jul 2022, 18:00
I think Ferrari can win the WCC tho with Sainz on top form.
If they continue like this they will have to watch out for Mercedes in WCC. Merc is closer to Ferrari than Ferrari to RBR.
I think Perez will struggle till the end now he has his contract extension and the car evolve in Max' direction.
Leclerc will come back stronger for sure. Sainz was very good in the last 4 races. Just have to fix reliability

Mercedes are not a real threat. There's Hamilton ofc but he will not bring enough points alone. Russell can't be lucky every race

User avatar
christian.falavena
20
Joined: 26 Dec 2020, 21:07

Re: 2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

Post

selvam_e2002 wrote:
24 Jul 2022, 18:13
It is throttle peddle issue. Ferrari covering it in media however it is reveled in post driver discussions before podium ceremony. Th Rb engineer said it is throttle issue. Then broadcaster mutted all conversation in that room. So it is clear throttle issue.
https://twitter.com/CFalavena/status/15 ... 3547173890
Here you can see the throttle is working, he was in anti-stall and there's a safety system that prevents him to apply throttle whem searching the reverse with clutch engaged.

NL_Fer
NL_Fer
82
Joined: 15 Jun 2014, 09:48

Re: 2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

Post

Anyone has an onboard with throttle input from Charles? His left rear is pulling a skid mark, just before he loses the rear and goes offtrack. So it looks like he his pushing to much.

max_speed
max_speed
4
Joined: 29 Oct 2012, 04:33

Re: 2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

Post

What is criteria to be in ferrari's pit wall strategy team, i feel as long as guy are 5th standard passout you can be there. Their srategy bench should be fired on spot, joke coated alonso championships not replicating their success in 2022 with saniz and lecre
Last edited by max_speed on 24 Jul 2022, 21:24, edited 1 time in total.

tpe
tpe
-4
Joined: 03 Feb 2006, 00:24
Location: Greece

Re: 2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

Post

Spoutnik wrote:
24 Jul 2022, 19:39
tpe wrote:
24 Jul 2022, 18:55
I don't believe for a second that Leclerc's exit was a throttle issue.
Clearly it was a driver mistake. Anyway...
Yesterday Ferrari did a very good job at the strategy, today everything went wrong. From the slow pitstop to the unsafe release.

I believe they should try to stay out, but I guess they had already checked Lec tires and they didn't think they could make it to the end
What is the mistake exactly
It's always very weird how top driver lost suddenly the car sometimes
It's like Hamilton in Brazil 2017 to me very very surprising
He said so.
I have no reason not to believe him

User avatar
F1NAC
170
Joined: 31 Mar 2013, 22:35

Re: 2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

Post

selvam_e2002 wrote:
24 Jul 2022, 18:13
It is throttle peddle issue. Ferrari covering it in media however it is reveled in post driver discussions before podium ceremony. Th Rb engineer said it is throttle issue. Then broadcaster mutted all conversation in that room. So it is clear throttle issue.
No.. the issue with the throttle appeared when Lec was going thorugh procedure to engage reverse. It was a misstep in procedure.

Slahinki
Slahinki
1
Joined: 20 Mar 2022, 03:09

Re: 2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

Post

JPower wrote:
24 Jul 2022, 18:21
Spoutnik wrote:
24 Jul 2022, 17:35
Fortunately it's not Sainz who bin it into the wall.. wonder what would be said.
Let's just say I don't think people would be near as sympathetic or trying to cover for him as some seem to be doing for Leclerc now.
I can definitely think of a few users here that would be ripping him a new orifice while calling for his head, lol. The people that said Sainz cracked under pressure in Silverstone are oddly quiet now, at least he didn't put his car in the wall unlike il predestinato today.

User avatar
chrisc90
41
Joined: 23 Feb 2022, 21:22

Re: 2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

Post

Just looked back at the results from the season.

Ferrari have only finished both cars in 6 of 12 races so far
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

User avatar
F1NAC
170
Joined: 31 Mar 2013, 22:35

Re: 2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

Post

Slahinki wrote:
24 Jul 2022, 21:29
JPower wrote:
24 Jul 2022, 18:21
Spoutnik wrote:
24 Jul 2022, 17:35
Fortunately it's not Sainz who bin it into the wall.. wonder what would be said.
Let's just say I don't think people would be near as sympathetic or trying to cover for him as some seem to be doing for Leclerc now.
I can definitely think of a few users here that would be ripping him a new orifice while calling for his head, lol. The people that said Sainz cracked under pressure in Silverstone are oddly quiet now, at least he didn't put his car in the wall unlike il predestinato today.
He didn't he only passed through red light in the pitlane and earned 5secs penalty.

Charles --- up. Pretty badly. I think we all understand that

User avatar
Big Tea
99
Joined: 24 Dec 2017, 20:57

Re: 2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

Post

max_speed wrote:
24 Jul 2022, 21:02
What is criteria to be in ferrari's pit wall strategy team, i feel as long as guy are 5th standard passout you can be there. Their srategy bench should be fired on spot, joke coated alonso championships not replicating their success in 2022 with saniz and lecre
The strange part is asking the driver what he thinks one second then after discussing it with him and leaving it at that, then coming back and ordering the driver to pit.

It is like they are indecisive and do not want to make a decision, then once someone had it has to be followed no matter what has happened in the meantime. There seems to be no instantaneous feedback and processing. Either tell the driver what is going to happen, then listen to his disagreements if any or follow his advice. Its like someone does not want to be in the office for not following a command from on high, but does not want to carry the can for their own decisions.
When arguing with a fool, be sure the other person is not doing the same thing.