2022 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 29 - 31

[ringo]

Sky always seem pretty fair and balanced in my opinion.

With the exception of Di Resta who seems to have some personal vendetta against Hamilton. Something to do with his dad and contracts apparently.

this takes the crown .

After France, Horner was asked by the guy they send in the pits if they should consider Charles a crasher now. Even Horner had to be like "WTF are you on mate?"

That is trying to lure him, and that is EXACTLY what I mean, we don’t need that.

I think you guys are blaming the wrong thing. It's not pro british or anti redbull.
Totto doesn't need sky to get him hot under the collar and talk about the next team. But Binnotto does and Horner. Binnotto is difficult to get emotional response from, while Horner always puts his foot in his mouth, so the Sky team go to him first to create drama between the two leading teams.

The broadcaster is trying to create a rivalry between the team principals to make the season more exciting.
Binotto is a quiet and controlled guy, he wont speak anything too exciting or insulting about his rivals.
Horner isn't doing that against ferrari either.

So we basically have a damp squib of a fight for the championship interms of emotions and spiciness and agression. So I don't blame Sky for trying to stoke the flames.
I would do the same if I were Liberty media!

[NicoS]

Every time Crofty says the wrong driver he makes me want to throttle him. He does it so much like today with Hamilton and Russell, and it went on for so long. Hamilton was not even close to the battle at the time

That gets to me as well and it features in his commentary so often.
He comes across as a tool.

Murry walker did it so often it became his trademark and he was considered by many one of the great broadcasters ( Not by me though )

but Murry had more tact and suave... he was vintage, timeless, Crofty is just short and stout, pretty noisy.

[Gillian]

It's nearly impossible to be fully unbiased so some bias from the Sky crew is normal. I'm not a Brit but I don't have a problem with Sky.

Race commentary by Palmer on F1TV is a pure gem imo and he's about as neutral one can get. In all honesty I can't remember a better race commentary than him, and I've been watching for a few decades...

[mendis]

I don’t know how long I have been watching f1 - 25 years or so.

In all that time the biggest scandal was last year when the race/championship was manipulated by the FIA, to the point of literal race fixing. Procedures totally ignored and made up on the fly just to give Max a chance.

Yet even then Sky remained neutral. I don’t remember any of the crew kicking off, they just acted professionally and took it.

If they were indeed as bias as some are saying, then was the perfect opportunity but it never happened.

If we are to be paid handsomely to maintain the decorum, we would all probably be behaving better than the Sky team for sure, despite our innate personal desires, dislikes and bigotry.

[dialtone]

It's nearly impossible to be fully unbiased so some bias from the Sky crew is normal. I'm not a Brit but I don't have a problem with Sky.

Race commentary by Palmer on F1TV is a pure gem imo and he's about as neutral one can get. In all honesty I can't remember a better race commentary than him, and I've been watching for a few decades...

I like F1TV more as well, Sky UK is not balanced at all, Sky Italy is a lot more balanced than Sky Uk and actually gets good information from Ferrari anyway, plus they work with telemetry data from the app.

F1TV is pretty good overall, they aren't always on point, but at the start of the season I would use Sky Uk on youtube tv to watch the race because it's less delayed, but I just can't stand Sky Uk team, F1 TV even with the delay all day long.

[rifrafs2kees]

I don’t know how long I have been watching f1 - 25 years or so.

In all that time the biggest scandal was last year when the race/championship was manipulated by the FIA, to the point of literal race fixing. Procedures totally ignored and made up on the fly just to give Max a chance.

Yet even then Sky remained neutral. I don’t remember any of the crew kicking off, they just acted professionally and took it.

If they were indeed as bias as some are saying, then was the perfect opportunity but it never happened.

+++Logical points to prove your position, while others get their knots twisted over a question about a theme in Leclerc's on track performance.
While we're at it:
Max is hard to the point of stepping over the line.
Hamilton can have the odd weekend off. (Before you get at me, my favorites are Lewis, Russell, Leclerc, and Alonso)
Leclerc, can crack under pressure.

Sky may be pro-British drivers, as they should considering their primary audience is British; that in itself is no basis for the outright illogical accusation of supposed sky bias against Red Bull.

[Big Tea]

It's nearly impossible to be fully unbiased so some bias from the Sky crew is normal. I'm not a Brit but I don't have a problem with Sky.

Race commentary by Palmer on F1TV is a pure gem imo and he's about as neutral one can get. In all honesty I can't remember a better race commentary than him, and I've been watching for a few decades...

I like F1TV more as well, Sky UK is not balanced at all, Sky Italy is a lot more balanced than Sky Uk and actually gets good information from Ferrari anyway, plus they work with telemetry data from the app.

F1TV is pretty good overall, they aren't always on point, but at the start of the season I would use Sky Uk on youtube tv to watch the race because it's less delayed, but I just can't stand Sky Uk team, F1 TV even with the delay all day long.

Don't know if you still can, but for several years I spent a couple of months each year in Europe with other broadcast language coverage and would put the sound off and followed on radio. (You have to pause a while to sink it though)

[dialtone]

It's nearly impossible to be fully unbiased so some bias from the Sky crew is normal. I'm not a Brit but I don't have a problem with Sky.

Race commentary by Palmer on F1TV is a pure gem imo and he's about as neutral one can get. In all honesty I can't remember a better race commentary than him, and I've been watching for a few decades...

I like F1TV more as well, Sky UK is not balanced at all, Sky Italy is a lot more balanced than Sky Uk and actually gets good information from Ferrari anyway, plus they work with telemetry data from the app.

F1TV is pretty good overall, they aren't always on point, but at the start of the season I would use Sky Uk on youtube tv to watch the race because it's less delayed, but I just can't stand Sky Uk team, F1 TV even with the delay all day long.

Don't know if you still can, but for several years I spent a couple of months each year in Europe with other broadcast language coverage and would put the sound off and followed on radio. (You have to pause a while to sink it though)

Yeah, I've done a couple of races with the TV on with the race and the commentary with LEC's onboard on the laptop and laptimes on the phone and it's a fun experience to try if you can. It feels more powerful than Ferrari strategists.

[rifrafs2kees]

Every time Crofty says the wrong driver he makes me want to throttle him. He does it so much like today with Hamilton and Russell, and it went on for so long. Hamilton was not even close to the battle at the time

That gets to me as well and it features in his commentary so often.
He comes across as a tool.

Murry walker did it so often it became his trademark and he was considered by many one of the great broadcasters ( Not by me though )


Edit, in his defense. He was a radio broadcaster for many years and the cardinal sin on radio is silence.
They believe talking nonsense is preferable to taking a second to think leaving dead air, and he has carried it with him.
My personal gripe with him is when he goes into 'horse race last furlong mode' I often reach for mute.

True and I quite liked old Murray Walker.

[Neuron]

In other hand - is it right time to calculate when Verstappen will be announced as 2 times WDC? Around Japan?

[Zynerji]

Even Russell acknowledged in the driver pen Leclerc's misfortunes. Binotto will be looking for a job if he doesn't sort his strategy team

I bet they miss Arivabene and his brilliant strategy team now

[rifrafs2kees]

Even Russell acknowledged in the driver pen Leclerc's misfortunes. Binotto will be looking for a job if he doesn't sort his strategy team

I bet they miss Arivabene and his brilliant strategy team now

Agreed. He was certainly top notch operationally. Binotto should go back to the technical side, where I'm sure he does top tier work.

[dialtone]

Even Russell acknowledged in the driver pen Leclerc's misfortunes. Binotto will be looking for a job if he doesn't sort his strategy team

I bet they miss Arivabene and his brilliant strategy team now

Nope.

[Zynerji]

I don’t know how long I have been watching f1 - 25 years or so.

In all that time the biggest scandal was last year when the race/championship was manipulated by the FIA, to the point of literal race fixing. Procedures totally ignored and made up on the fly just to give Max a chance.

Yet even then Sky remained neutral. I don’t remember any of the crew kicking off, they just acted professionally and took it.

If they were indeed as bias as some are saying, then was the perfect opportunity but it never happened.

+++Logical points to prove your position, while others get their knots twisted over a question about a theme in Leclerc's on track performance.
While we're at it:
Max is hard to the point of stepping over the line.
Hamilton can have the odd weekend off. (Before you get at me, my favorites are Lewis, Russell, Leclerc, and Alonso)
Leclerc, can crack under pressure.

Sky may be pro-British drivers, as they should considering their primary audience is British; that in itself is no basis for the outright illogical accusation of supposed sky bias against Red Bull.

F1TV app commentating with Palmer owning Collins the tech guy constantly is worth the price!

[langedweil]

In other hand - is it right time to calculate when Verstappen will be announced as 2 times WDC? Around Japan?

That'll be nice .. in a Honda appraising livery!