Pre-silly-season-silliness.

[Redragon]

Alpine should agree to Daniel if Mclaren pays his salary for 2023

Why Riccardo will accept that, because Mclaren is finishing his contract doesn't mean is driving free for a year. Ricardo probably will be asking 2 years minimum

[sunny1304r]

For all these noise, Piastri will be under extreme pressure to deliver. This might not be good for his career.

[aran.vtec]

For all these noise, Piastri will be under extreme pressure to deliver. This might not be good for his career.

I feel the same and with Norris on top form with the added pressure Mclaren themselves have to perform, Might not be the best environment for a rookie

[The Prodigy]

For all these noise, Piastri will be under extreme pressure to deliver. This might not be good for his career.

Every driver is under pressure to deliver. In every Team.

Rookies have maybe one year where the teams are more tolerant.


Edit:

And most people forget that Norris was beaten by Sainz 2019 + 2020. Just a friendly reminder.

[Big Tea]

For all these noise, Piastri will be under extreme pressure to deliver. This might not be good for his career.

I feel the same and with Norris on top form with the added pressure Mclaren themselves have to perform, Might not be the best environment for a rookie

He does not have to do better than Lando to be a success, just better than Danny.
At least for the first year

[The Prodigy]

For all these noise, Piastri will be under extreme pressure to deliver. This might not be good for his career.

I feel the same and with Norris on top form with the added pressure Mclaren themselves have to perform, Might not be the best environment for a rookie

He does not have to do better than Lando to be a success, just better than Danny.
At least for the first year

A rookie should show potential in the first year and massively improve in the second year. Lando is a good example for that.

[aran.vtec]

I feel the same and with Norris on top form with the added pressure Mclaren themselves have to perform, Might not be the best environment for a rookie

He does not have to do better than Lando to be a success, just better than Danny.
At least for the first year

A rookie should show potential in the first year and massively improve in the second year. Lando is a good example for that.

The way teams are fighting over him its like he's the next lewis/Charles/Max/russel and they all beat their teammates

[Redragon]

For all these noise, Piastri will be under extreme pressure to deliver. This might not be good for his career.

Norris was too and turn out alright!, Zack was right on giving Norris a chance, Let's see how Piastri handle it before any conclusions. If he made the apexes will be already better than Ricciardo.

[djos]

He does not have to do better than Lando to be a success, just better than Danny.
At least for the first year

A rookie should show potential in the first year and massively improve in the second year. Lando is a good example for that.

The way teams are fighting over him its like he's the next lewis/Charles/Max/russel and they all beat their teammates

Well he’s the Only driver to ever win all 3 junior championship’s, and do it in his rookie season for each championship.

[SmallSoldier]

It would be ironic if after all this Piastri ends up getting Vandoorned by Norris lol

It wouldn’t be much different than what is happening today, with the caveat that Piastri will cost way less than Daniel, not much lost for McLaren if that’s the case.

[Sieper]

It is clear (to me) he deserves a try at F1, but what the .... is going on. After the summer break already?

[DChemTech]

A rookie should show potential in the first year and massively improve in the second year. Lando is a good example for that.

The way teams are fighting over him its like he's the next lewis/Charles/Max/russel and they all beat their teammates

Well he’s the Only driver to ever win all 3 junior championship’s, and do it in his rookie season for each championship.

Which is the 1st one that you refer to? As far as wikipedia is concerned, he was 2nd in F4 (British, after a prior run in F4 UAE) and won Formula Renault in his 2nd year there.

But still, F3 and F2 rookie wins are impressive, and it's a bit of a surprise that Alpine did not take him in, or try harder to station him elsewhere, last year. Not as a replacement of Alonso, but of Ocon - who had a good run in the juniors as well (rookie F3 and GP3 winner), but in his early F1 career was mainly remembered for being the guy that got in a rumble with the race leader trying to unlap himself, and a bit of cheekiness right after. In the time after, Ocon's had his moments, including a win, but overall hasn't majorly impressed.

[Fulcrum]

A rookie should show potential in the first year and massively improve in the second year. Lando is a good example for that.

The way teams are fighting over him its like he's the next lewis/Charles/Max/russel and they all beat their teammates

Well he’s the Only driver to ever win all 3 junior championship’s, and do it in his rookie season for each championship.

Sounds impressive.

Dig into the context of the results, and you get a slightly more nuanced perspective.

He is good enough to warrant a drive, and to do so without being labelled as a pay driver.

Is he 'a little bit special'? Who knows.

The hype train has certainly left the station though.

[Just_a_fan]

A rookie should show potential in the first year and massively improve in the second year. Lando is a good example for that.

The way teams are fighting over him its like he's the next lewis/Charles/Max/russel and they all beat their teammates

Well he’s the Only driver to ever win all 3 junior championship’s, and do it in his rookie season for each championship.

He took F3 and F2 in his only season in each. Formula Renault took him 2 attempts. And he didn't win F4.

By comparison Russell won F4 on his first attempt, didn't win F3 having tried twice, won GP3 and F2 on his first attempt at each. And Max never won a junior car series, having done only 1 season between karts and F1. Lewis won Formula Renault and F3 at the second attempt of each before winning GP2 on his first attempt. Seb only won one feeder series - Formula BMW ADAC. Fernando won one feeder series out of the two he did between karts and F1.

So Piastri's record isn't uniquely good - albeit that it is very good - and, of course, feeder results don't guarantee F1 results.

It's worth remembering that junior series record only gives an indication - you need also to look at who they're racing.

[aran.vtec]

peter has a allot more inside information than us and as he says when a company spends millions on you when no one else was you have to give them the benefit and not jump ship as soon as a date passes and from what we understand they were actively trying to get him a ride in 2023

now we dont know what was happening behind the scenes but from the outside it doesn’t make him look very good and his manager has gone all in on mclaren and i hope it works out for him.

coming 2nd to lando paints the picture that you slightly better than daniel and maybe on the level of sainz

now beating ocon or albon comes off much better and is much more likely to happen