Ferrari F1-75

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They're functionally the same thing and one is often interchangably used with the other even in technical and research white papers.
So yes, semantics.

Your aircraft controls still get called fly-by-wire even if the thing is on the floor and you're controlling the wheel steering or brakes.

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They might be ‘interchangably used by some but not technically speaking, because it is not the correct way to speak/describe the systems used.
No technical or research paper whatever the ‘color’ will call them the same.
Yes. When an aircraft using the fly-by-wire system is on the ground or ‘floor’, the system is still called a fly-by-wire system. And when a car uses the drive-by-wire system and said car for some reason or another leaves the ground or ‘floor’, the system is still called a drive-by-wire system.

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*ahem*

Back to F1-75 discussion please...

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saviour stivala wrote:
03 Aug 2022, 17:50
They actually all use 'Drive-by-wire' and not 'FLY-BY-WIRE' system.
The first time I heard of fly by wire was for rocket propelled grenades that were remote controlled over a few hundred meters of cable.
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Good. Appropriate description of being operated.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
14 Aug 2022, 08:00
saviour stivala wrote:
03 Aug 2022, 17:50
They actually all use 'Drive-by-wire' and not 'FLY-BY-WIRE' system.
The first time I heard of fly by wire was for rocket propelled grenades that were remote controlled over a few hundred meters of cable.
Yeet-by-wire LOL
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Bit of info re the rear suspension design effect on hookup
Few bits if mis/dis information
In English

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
14 Aug 2022, 08:00
saviour stivala wrote:
03 Aug 2022, 17:50
They actually all use 'Drive-by-wire' and not 'FLY-BY-WIRE' system.
The first time I heard of fly by wire was for rocket propelled grenades that were remote controlled over a few hundred meters of cable.
Wire guided projectiles?

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wuzak wrote:
17 Aug 2022, 07:57
PlatinumZealot wrote:
14 Aug 2022, 08:00
saviour stivala wrote:
03 Aug 2022, 17:50
They actually all use 'Drive-by-wire' and not 'FLY-BY-WIRE' system.
The first time I heard of fly by wire was for rocket propelled grenades that were remote controlled over a few hundred meters of cable.
Wire guided projectiles?
Please, start separete thred on fly by wire theories and guided projectiles, this one is abou F1-75. Thank you 😉

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wuzak wrote:
17 Aug 2022, 07:57
PlatinumZealot wrote:
14 Aug 2022, 08:00
saviour stivala wrote:
03 Aug 2022, 17:50
They actually all use 'Drive-by-wire' and not 'FLY-BY-WIRE' system.
The first time I heard of fly by wire was for rocket propelled grenades that were remote controlled over a few hundred meters of cable.
Wire guided projectiles?
Yarp. Thats where the term fly by wire came from if i am correct. Then drive by wire became a thing around mid nineties with some luxury brands like Mercedes and BMW. Then brake by wire became a thing in F1.
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Some comparison pictures: new and old floor
by AMuS https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... 1-technik/

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In comparison RB18:
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Vanja #66 wrote:
26 Jul 2022, 08:39
It's just different reflections and a curvature between vertical and horizontal surfaces. I don't think there would be any benefit of introducing a step there.
You were absolutely correct (see the middle image in the post above this one) and i became victim of those pesky pesky reflections ...hehe

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The new hybrid (with only a 5 place grid drop now) continues to be rumoured for Spa:

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-fe ... /10355225/

We’ll take the it.motorsport rumours with a pinch of salt but presuming Ferrari do have a new hybrid capable of adding any performance at all to the PU (which will subsequently be frozen for 3.5 seasons), doing so in exchange for a 5 place drop at a track where you can overtake seems like a no-brainer (especially given they’ll want to avoid any penalties in Monza).

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Nicolas Carpentiers:

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Is that the area covering the fuel tank?
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