Red Bull RB18

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Sounds like they are testing for next year then.
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Not really. Perez needs stronger rear end.

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dxpetrov wrote: ↑
01 Sep 2022, 19:21
Not really. Perez needs stronger rear end.
According to Perez:
That is a wish of the team, explains Perez,

I think that while Perez might not extract the ultimate pace out of the package as well as Max can, they are doing some comparison running perhaps for correlation and/or concepts for next year.
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So again! Different parts on the cars!
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PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑
01 Sep 2022, 20:45
So again! Different parts on the cars!
Same as most other teams really. Thankfully RB is in a place where they can afford to experiment.

The more data they can gather for this years running the better. I guess only the team will know the exact reasoning behind running slightly different setups. Tyre management, extra downforce, driver style etc etc.
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PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑
01 Sep 2022, 20:45
So again! Different parts on the cars!
What exactly is the problem? They are testing and learning. "Experimenting" as Mercedes calls it.
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AR3-GP wrote: ↑
01 Sep 2022, 21:18
PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑
01 Sep 2022, 20:45
So again! Different parts on the cars!
What exactly is the problem? They are testing and learning. "Experimenting" as Mercedes calls it.
No idea! Baffles me, Mercedes’ have done it every week since start of the season
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There is no problem. If anything perez has the more developed floor. To me the cutout appearing/disappearing and now being run by checo tells me:

It may move the balance rearwards, perhaps max didn't like the way it made the car feel, or it's a development that didn't quite work and they want more data to improve it. I guess whether or not the cutout reappears for max will tell us which

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PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑
01 Sep 2022, 20:45
So again! Different parts on the cars!
Yes, Perez floor type was a bit more suited for his driving style: more rear DF. He can't cope with more front balanced grip (hear his qualy radio comment I can't handle more front flap) More front DF brings more laptime when handled correctly
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4min39* Buxton says Perez confirmed to him more upgrades coming over next few races, including a big one for Singapore which has all the team bosses talking. All but confirms new chassis will be on the RB18 for Singapore.

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01 Sep 2022, 22:13


4min50 Buxton says Perez confirmed to him more upgrades coming over next few races, including a big one for Singapore which has all the team bosses talking. All but confirms new chassis will be on the RB18 for Singapore.
4:39 to be a bit more precise.
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Alexf1 wrote: ↑
01 Sep 2022, 22:12
PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑
01 Sep 2022, 20:45
So again! Different parts on the cars!
Yes, Perez floor type was a bit more suited for his driving style: more rear DF. He can't cope with more front balanced grip (hear his qualy radio comment I can't handle more front flap) More front DF brings more laptime when handled correctly
It was half a second slower.
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PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑
02 Sep 2022, 01:26
Alexf1 wrote: ↑
01 Sep 2022, 22:12
PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑
01 Sep 2022, 20:45
So again! Different parts on the cars!
Yes, Perez floor type was a bit more suited for his driving style: more rear DF. He can't cope with more front balanced grip (hear his qualy radio comment I can't handle more front flap) More front DF brings more laptime when handled correctly
It was half a second slower.
ah yes like that gap hasn't existed when the specs have been identical in previous races.. oh wait :roll: even perez himself says the different spec cannot account for the gaps between them and it must be because the car is being developed more for max's tastes, which makes sense to do. what's the point in having this discussion every other week

what's the excuse next, that checo has started to test the 2023 diffuser height? Now that we can't claim he's testing the post-TD spec floor

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I don't know what Buxton is on about it (as always), but Checko actually confirmed that the chassis was already on the limit in terms of weight.