2022 Alpine F1 Team

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Big Tea
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I don't see how Alpine can loose. If they take Danny or Gasly they are getting an experienced driver of (mostly) known ability with the bonus of removing that driver from what is going to be their immediate competition, and one of them will be taking an untried rookie. He may be good, but how often have wee seen 'the best thing since sliced bread' either come into F1 and quietly fizzle out or take a couple of years to find their feet. Lewis and Max are the exception not the rule.

If things go their way they have the option of selling OP's contract to another team if they are uncomeatable with him, or, worst case, they are back where they were before this all started and have had a month free publicity.
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Big Tea wrote:
01 Sep 2022, 19:59
I don't see how Alpine can loose. If they take Danny or Gasly they are getting an experienced driver of (mostly) known ability with the bonus of removing that driver from what is going to be their immediate competition, and one of them will be taking an untried rookie. He may be good, but how often have wee seen 'the best thing since sliced bread' either come into F1 and quietly fizzle out or take a couple of years to find their feet. Lewis and Max are the exception not the rule.

If things go their way they have the option of selling OP's contract to another team if they are uncomeatable with him, or, worst case, they are back where they were before this all started and have had a month free publicity.
I agree whole heatedly. No to mention that Max started out of the limelight somewhat with STR.

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The drama is over… and apparently there won’t be any law suits or requests for any restitutions…


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Apparently, Piastri signed for McLaren on 4 July - four weeks before the drama unfolded.
What a loss of face for Alpine.

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SmallSoldier wrote:
02 Sep 2022, 15:57
The drama is over… and apparently there won’t be any law suits or requests for any restitutions…
Andreas Seidl:
"The contract recognition board decided there was no case. I don't know why the other side thought they had a case."

:lol:

So much for the claims of Alpine having the more skilled lawyers.

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I think it was pretty obvious Alpine didn't have a legal leg to stand on. Otmar's first comments after Fernando announced joining Aston showed that they were in panic mode, not a like a team that had a firm plan B. Everything he's said after then shows he's such a BS merchant.
Now they have to pay out of their pocket if they're to extract Gasly from his RB contract. Not much of a win-win situation after all.
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JordanMugen wrote:
02 Sep 2022, 16:03
SmallSoldier wrote:
02 Sep 2022, 15:57
The drama is over… and apparently there won’t be any law suits or requests for any restitutions…
Andreas Seidl:
"The contract recognition board decided there was no case. I don't know why the other side thought they had a case."

:lol:

So much for the claims of Alpine having the more skilled lawyers.
Exactly! Also… Wonder what all the “internet lawyers” that argue without even reading any of the contracts will say now… Piastri signed a 2 year deal with McLaren on July 4th, before Alonso move to AM

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Ground Effect wrote:
02 Sep 2022, 16:04
I think it was pretty obvious Alpine didn't have a legal leg to stand on. Otmar's first comments after Fernando announced joining Aston showed that they were in panic mode, not a like a team that had a firm plan B. Everything he's said after then shows he's such a BS merchant.
It seems indeed that all that Piasti had signed was a non-binding Heads of Terms agreement after all, just as Otmar originally said (that it was a Heads of Terms not a contract). To announce a driver who is already contracted to another team without a quote and then take a non-binding agreement to a CRB dispute and threaten High Court action against said driver seems like a very bizarre series of decisions indeed!
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SmallSoldier wrote:
02 Sep 2022, 16:06
JordanMugen wrote:
02 Sep 2022, 16:03
SmallSoldier wrote:
02 Sep 2022, 15:57
The drama is over… and apparently there won’t be any law suits or requests for any restitutions…
Andreas Seidl:
"The contract recognition board decided there was no case. I don't know why the other side thought they had a case."

:lol:

So much for the claims of Alpine having the more skilled lawyers.
Exactly! Also… Wonder what all the “internet lawyers” that argue without even reading any of the contracts will say now… Piastri signed a 2 year deal with McLaren on July 4th, before Alonso move to AM
So I guess this vindicates Fernando, this is one conspiracy he can't be tied to.
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Ground Effect wrote:
02 Sep 2022, 16:08
SmallSoldier wrote:
02 Sep 2022, 16:06
JordanMugen wrote:
02 Sep 2022, 16:03


Andreas Seidl:
"The contract recognition board decided there was no case. I don't know why the other side thought they had a case."

:lol:

So much for the claims of Alpine having the more skilled lawyers.
Exactly! Also… Wonder what all the “internet lawyers” that argue without even reading any of the contracts will say now… Piastri signed a 2 year deal with McLaren on July 4th, before Alonso move to AM
So I guess this vindicates Fernando, this is one conspiracy he can't be tied to.
Exactly!

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If it was obvious Piastri won't be driving for them, why didn't they offer that multi year deal Alonso wanted?

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Michelangelo wrote:
02 Sep 2022, 16:19
If it was obvious Piastri won't be driving for them, why didn't they offer that multi year deal Alonso wanted?
Well, obvious Alpine were caught in there entitlement that they thought that Alonso had no where to go and Piastri would be a reserve for another year. Webber-Alonso-Briatore just screwed over Renault.

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Jolle wrote:
Michelangelo wrote:
02 Sep 2022, 16:19
If it was obvious Piastri won't be driving for them, why didn't they offer that multi year deal Alonso wanted?
Well, obvious Alpine were caught in there entitlement that they thought that Alonso had no where to go and Piastri would be a reserve for another year. Webber-Alonso-Briatore just screwed over Renault.
Weber-Alonso-Briatote didn’t screwed Alpine… Alpine screwed Alpine.


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SmallSoldier wrote:
02 Sep 2022, 16:39
Jolle wrote:
Michelangelo wrote:
02 Sep 2022, 16:19
If it was obvious Piastri won't be driving for them, why didn't they offer that multi year deal Alonso wanted?
Well, obvious Alpine were caught in there entitlement that they thought that Alonso had no where to go and Piastri would be a reserve for another year. Webber-Alonso-Briatore just screwed over Renault.
Weber-Alonso-Briatote didn’t screwed Alpine… Alpine screwed Alpine.


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Let’s say they made use of Alpine’s “who do you think we are?” Attitude 😜

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SmallSoldier wrote:
02 Sep 2022, 16:39
Jolle wrote:
Michelangelo wrote:
02 Sep 2022, 16:19
If it was obvious Piastri won't be driving for them, why didn't they offer that multi year deal Alonso wanted?
Well, obvious Alpine were caught in there entitlement that they thought that Alonso had no where to go and Piastri would be a reserve for another year. Webber-Alonso-Briatore just screwed over Renault.
Weber-Alonso-Briatote didn’t screwed Alpine… Alpine screwed Alpine.
Alpine did screw Alpine yes, I just wonder something, if the contract was signed since the 4th of July, why wait for the announcement ? If it was known before there would have been no mess like this