2022 Dutch Grand Prix - Zandvoort, Sep 02 - 04

[ispano6]

I think Russell could of beat Sainz with his fresh tires, looks like the battle of the rest tomorrow. Leclerc for the win.

If Russell didn't slow down for the yellows he should be investigated. Slowing down after the incident doesn't count.

[Oleo]

Why Russell slowed down right before start/finish line, and not before last turn? There were yellow flags

It looks weird. There was a yellow flag on TV coverage, but LED panel in last turn wasn't flashing (?). Russell drove past Perez with his pedal in floor, he slowed down 80-100 meters before finish line

The yellow led panel is 1,5 corners back, it would have turned on after Russell went past. However there is clearly a marshall with a yellow flag a few meters before the green panel on Russells onboard. Its kind of a strange situation he is actually stopped further down the road from the green panel, because he travelled quite a distance from where he spun. That panel should not be green...

[chrisc90]

Why Russell slowed down right before start/finish line, and not before last turn? There were yellow flags

It looks weird. There was a yellow flag on TV coverage, but LED panel in last turn wasn't flashing (?). Russell drove past Perez with his pedal in floor, he slowed down 80-100 meters before finish line

The yellow led panel is 1,5 corners back, it would have turned on after Russell went past. However there is clearly a marshall with a yellow flag a few meters before the green panel on Russells onboard. Its kind of a strange situation he is actually stopped further down the road from the green panel, because he travelled quite a distance from where he spun. That panel should not be green...

Got the onboard? Marshall posts take precedence over the marshalling track lights

[Sevach]

So split strategy for Ferrari tomorrow? One go long, the other agressive?

That's dangerous territory for Ferrari.

[mendis]

So split strategy for Ferrari tomorrow? One go long, the other agressive?

That's dangerous territory for Ferrari.

It's sad to almost have no hope even when it's 2 vs 1 for Ferrari. Such has become the track record. Hope, Charles gets this one and Ferrari for once do a good job.

[chrisc90]

Doesn’t the timing data Search posted have them as about .2 down after the middle sector?

[mendis]

Doesn’t the timing data Search posted have them as about .2 down after the middle sector?

It's Toto. Hard to believe what he says.
Max - 24,229; 24.556; 21.557
Lec - 24.155; 24.569; 21.461
Sai - 24.176; 24.627; 21.631
Ham - 24.252; 24.667; Yellow.

[Sevach]

Ferrari good under braking, Red Bull straight line speed, Mercedes long radius corners that don't have big stoppages.

[Spacepace]

Just my quick takeaway from people bashing Dutch fans. It's more of a case of non-F1 fans that come to the races due to the popularity of it in Holland due to their rising star and go for the partying. F1 viewership has grew enormously within the last 6 years and a lot of those people are casual viewers and are more likely going to the races for the experience then the racing. Mix that with partying and alcohol and you get semantics

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[chrisc90]

Doesn’t the timing data Search posted have them as about .2 down after the middle sector?

It's Toto. Hard to believe what he says.
Max - 24,229; 24.556; 21.557
Lec - 24.155; 24.569; 21.461
Sai - 24.176; 24.627; 21.631
Ham - 24.252; 24.574; Yellow.

Toto must be confusing up and down.

[mendis]

Doesn’t the timing data Search posted have them as about .2 down after the middle sector?

It's Toto. Hard to believe what he says.
Max - 24,229; 24.556; 21.557
Lec - 24.155; 24.569; 21.461
Sai - 24.176; 24.627; 21.631
Ham - 24.252; 24.574; Yellow.

Toto must be confusing up and down.

Correction. Lewis wasn't even beating Sainz.

Max - 24,229; 24.556; 21.557
Lec - 24.155; 24.747; 21.461
Sai - 24.176; 24.627; 21.631
Ham - 24.252; 24.667; Yellow.

[Oleo]

It looks weird. There was a yellow flag on TV coverage, but LED panel in last turn wasn't flashing (?). Russell drove past Perez with his pedal in floor, he slowed down 80-100 meters before finish line

The yellow led panel is 1,5 corners back, it would have turned on after Russell went past. However there is clearly a marshall with a yellow flag a few meters before the green panel on Russells onboard. Its kind of a strange situation he is actually stopped further down the road from the green panel, because he travelled quite a distance from where he spun. That panel should not be green...

Got the onboard? Marshall posts take precedence over the marshalling track lights

Sure, its visible all the way back when he exits the previous corner:

[chrisc90]

Eek; that will be a penalty unless he lifted

[ringo]

Charles was close, I am not sure Ferrari can win unless he jumps Max. I have not studied the pace of the car this weekend, but with the better strategy team from redbull, Charles need to be ahead of Max at the start.
Hard to see redbull losing here.

The mercedes are really good in Q for once. But this may be down to track temps and high downforce setup.

[organic]

Just watched russell's onboard and he didn't lift as far as I could tell