2022 Dutch Grand Prix - Zandvoort, Sep 02 - 04

[chrisc90]

If toto wanted Lewis to win they should have put softs on him. Didn’t they learn from Dubai? Didn’t they learn from what happened at silverstone with Charles?

Even if Lewis lost track position, or even kept it to Max. Would Lewis of had the car to challenge Max for the win?

[SchuMassa]

Perez summoned to the stewards for the pit lane incident for something that was clearly Ferrari's fault.



Yet all the conspiracists here will explain how the FIA is actually in Red Bull's hands.

[Mogster]

The Sky broadcast said the FIA are going to investigate the AT situation.

[Zynerji]

The Sky broadcast said the FIA are going to investigate the AT situation.

Good. The sooner that the unfounded and baseless claims against Red Bull/Alpha Tauri are put to the rest, the better.

[Oleo]

Perez summoned to the stewards for the pit lane incident for something that was clearly Ferrari's fault.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fb0fvYNWAAI ... name=large

Yet all the conspiracists here will explain how the FIA is actually in Red Bull's hands.

People get called up all the team to provide their view on someone else's fault.

[renault rs26]

Is the rule for not overtaking before the finish like kind of in the same ballpark with the ruling about restart bullying (ie going next to leading car/harrasing) which was clarified last season? If you cant overtake before the start/finish line then why be next to the leading car? It preety much guarantees you the inside on the first corner.If i was Hamilton i would have lifted before the finish line ever so slightly while Max was just alongside.

Leader isn't allowed to slow down once he starts pushing, however Max had right to be alongside as long as he doesn't overtake before start line.

[Spoutnik]

[JordanMugen]

[SchuMassa]

The order came when Yuki was already exitting the pit lane. He couldn't stop there.

[PlatinumZealot]

If toto wanted Lewis to win they should have put softs on him. Didn’t they learn from Dubai? Didn’t they learn from what happened at silverstone with Charles?

Even if Lewis lost track position, or even kept it to Max. Would Lewis of had the car to challenge Max for the win?

The mediums plan was logical with a buffer. But it still would not bave worked in the end.

Two on softs still would not have worked because of the pace of the car. Before allof this Max walked the field let's not forget.

[mendis]

The Sky broadcast said the FIA are going to investigate the AT situation.

I am sure Franz Tost will admit to the conspiracy and they will be barred from F1.

[renault rs26]

Because they know they can get away with it obviously.

This isn't just any race win...

Exactly. Lewis standing P1 at Zandvoort…

I think that’s more why he was so angry, it’s not just any win.

But MAx would win even without vsc, he was leading by big margin.

[organic]

Stopping in the pitlane itself isn't a safe place to stop as cars can't navigate past you? All I can think of.

[BlueCheetah66]

Is the rule for not overtaking before the finish like kind of in the same ballpark with the ruling about restart bullying (ie going next to leading car/harrasing) which was clarified last season? If you cant overtake before the start/finish line then why be next to the leading car? It preety much guarantees you the inside on the first corner.If i was Hamilton i would have lifted before the finish line ever so slightly while Max was just alongside.

Telemetry would have made Lewis guilty of that.

Under what rule? As far as im aware you can brake or lift whenever you want without endagering anyone on the track.Alonso and Hamilton did this in Montreal some years ago for the DRS line,and Hamilton and Max did it last year as well.He could as well do it because technically in my understanding he is still in control before anyone crosses the line,unless i am reading things completely wrong. Anyway it wouldnt make any difference anyway,just sharing thoughts for the sake of conversation.

I think you cant drive erratically or you cant go and then slow down (I'm not too sure on the rule) and that would probably qualify for that

[chrisc90]

If toto wanted Lewis to win they should have put softs on him. Didn’t they learn from Dubai? Didn’t they learn from what happened at silverstone with Charles?

Even if Lewis lost track position, or even kept it to Max. Would Lewis of had the car to challenge Max for the win?

The mediums plan was logical with a buffer. But it still would not bave worked in the end.

Two on softs still would not have worked because of the pace of the car. Before allof this Max walked the field let's not forget.

When you had the second safety car that plan goes out the window. The 1 stop strategy goes clean out the window.

There was 2 scenarios.

Pit Lewis under the SC for a set of soft tyres, hope RB don’t pit in order to keep track position. Even if Lewis ended up 2nd place, being on the same tyre as near enough the rest of the grid puts you on the same playing field.

2 on softs would have absolutely worked. Stick some team orders in to protect Lewis for the 2nd place.

Sometimes keeping track position isn’t the way to go when the rest of the field is on a faster and softer tyre.

It’s absolute basics.